WEBVTT 00:00:01.001 --> 00:00:03.022 CR EVANS: Councillors, council officers Bayside residents 00:00:03.022 --> 00:00:06.016 and community members following our meeting this evening. 00:00:06.016 --> 00:00:11.011 Welcome to the 16 March 2021 ordinary 00:00:11.011 --> 00:00:13.020 meeting of council. 00:00:13.020 --> 00:00:20.000 The Local Government Act 2020 was amended on 1 May 2020 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:24.000 to direct that the requirement for a councillor or delegated committee 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:28.013 meeting to be open to the public is satisfied if the meeting 00:00:28.013 --> 00:00:32.023 is streamed live on the Internet site of the council. 00:00:32.023 --> 00:00:37.005 This provision was later extended allowing for meetings to be held 00:00:37.005 --> 00:00:41.003 in this manner, including via electronic means, 00:00:41.003 --> 00:00:47.010 until 27 April 2022, if required. 00:00:47.010 --> 00:00:50.012 This meeting is being held with the only councillors 00:00:50.012 --> 00:00:54.008 and limited council officers present due to density 00:00:54.008 --> 00:00:57.023 and distancing requirements for indoor public spaces. 00:00:59.024 --> 00:01:03.002 This protocol will continue to be reviewed in line 00:01:03.002 --> 00:01:07.019 with changing restrictions and government advice. 00:01:07.019 --> 00:01:11.014 Please note, if a technical problem is encountered during the meeting, 00:01:11.014 --> 00:01:15.004 which prevents council from live streaming, the meeting 00:01:15.004 --> 00:01:18.004 will be adjourned for 10 minutes. 00:01:18.004 --> 00:01:22.002 If the meeting cannot be resumed within 30 minutes, the meeting 00:01:22.002 --> 00:01:25.021 will be adjourned to be reconvened on Wednesday, 00:01:25.021 --> 00:01:30.023 17 March 2021, at 6:30, via live streaming 00:01:30.023 --> 00:01:33.014 on council's website. 00:01:33.014 --> 00:01:37.022 A copy of each live streamed meeting is placed on council's website the day 00:01:37.022 --> 00:01:40.002 after the meeting. 00:01:40.002 --> 00:01:45.002 Temporary meeting procedures in respect of individual presentations for council 00:01:45.002 --> 00:01:49.002 and committee meetings remain in place, whereby members 00:01:49.002 --> 00:01:52.019 of the public who would ordinarily have submitted a request to be heard 00:01:52.019 --> 00:01:56.017 in person at the meeting have the opportunity 00:01:56.017 --> 00:02:00.003 to instead provide a written statement. 00:02:00.003 --> 00:02:04.012 A copy of the statements received was distributed to all councillors 00:02:04.012 --> 00:02:08.018 at approximately noon today and has been published as an attachment 00:02:08.018 --> 00:02:11.020 to the agenda on council's website. 00:02:11.020 --> 00:02:14.015 The names of the submitters will be noted at the commencement 00:02:14.015 --> 00:02:18.007 of each item and recorded in the minutes, however, 00:02:18.007 --> 00:02:21.021 the statements will not be read out to the meeting. 00:02:21.021 --> 00:02:25.006 A reminder also to councillors and council officers 00:02:25.006 --> 00:02:29.012 to check that your mobile phones are switched off or placed on silent 00:02:29.012 --> 00:02:31.017 for the duration of the meeting. 00:02:31.017 --> 00:02:33.005 Thank you, councillors. 00:02:33.005 --> 00:02:35.012 We will now commence with the items of the agenda. 00:02:35.012 --> 00:02:37.002 The prayer. 00:02:37.002 --> 00:02:39.002 I would like to invite Councillor Castelli 00:02:39.002 --> 00:02:40.012 to read the prayer. 00:02:40.012 --> 00:02:42.002 Councillor Castelli. 00:02:42.002 --> 00:02:45.020 CR CASTELLI: O God, bless this city, Bayside, give us courage, strength 00:02:45.020 --> 00:02:50.012 and wisdom so that our deliberations may be for the good of all. 00:02:50.012 --> 00:02:51.024 Amen. 00:02:51.024 --> 00:02:54.009 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Castelli. 00:02:54.009 --> 00:02:56.014 Acknowledgment of the original inhabitants. 00:02:56.014 --> 00:02:58.014 I would like to invite Councillor del Porto 00:02:58.014 --> 00:03:01.006 to read the acknowledgment of our original inhabitants. 00:03:01.006 --> 00:03:04.002 CR DEL PORTO: We acknowledge that the original inhabitants 00:03:04.002 --> 00:03:06.021 of this land that we call Bayside were the Boon Wurrung people 00:03:06.021 --> 00:03:08.009 of the Kulin nation. 00:03:08.009 --> 00:03:11.009 They loved the land, they cared for it and considered themselves 00:03:11.009 --> 00:03:12.021 to be part of it. 00:03:12.021 --> 00:03:15.021 We acknowledge that we have a responsibility to nurture the land 00:03:15.021 --> 00:03:17.016 and sustain it for future generations. 00:03:17.016 --> 00:03:19.004 CR EVANS: Thank you. 00:03:19.004 --> 00:03:20.016 Apologies. 00:03:20.016 --> 00:03:22.017 Councillors, an apology has been received 00:03:22.017 --> 00:03:25.003 from Councillor El Mouallem for tonight's meeting. 00:03:25.003 --> 00:03:27.015 Can I have a mover and seconder? 00:03:27.015 --> 00:03:31.002 Moved Councillor del Porto, seconded Councillor Castelli. 00:03:31.002 --> 00:03:33.017 The apology be received and leave of absence be granted 00:03:33.017 --> 00:03:38.002 for 16 March 2021 ordinary meeting of council. 00:03:38.002 --> 00:03:39.014 All those in favour? 00:03:39.014 --> 00:03:41.002 Against? 00:03:41.002 --> 00:03:42.014 Carried. 00:03:42.014 --> 00:03:44.002 Declarations of interest. 00:03:44.002 --> 00:03:45.023 Are there any declarations of interest. 00:03:45.023 --> 00:03:47.011 Councillor del Porto. 00:03:47.011 --> 00:03:56.004 CR DEL PORTO: I have one which is 10.3, amendment 165 bays 5-7 Well Street, 00:03:56.004 --> 00:03:57.017 Brighton. 00:03:57.017 --> 00:04:00.023 I own a property in Well Street and I will be conflicted with whatever 00:04:00.023 --> 00:04:05.020 is discussed at council on this item and decided upon. 00:04:05.020 --> 00:04:08.022 And I intend to leave the chamber when that happens. 00:04:08.022 --> 00:04:10.010 I have filled in the form. 00:04:10.010 --> 00:04:11.022 CR EVANS: Thank you. 00:04:11.022 --> 00:04:14.015 Councillors, could I also please have a mover and seconder 00:04:14.015 --> 00:04:18.002 for the following procedural motion which is shown onscreen which, in case 00:04:18.002 --> 00:04:21.002 of technical difficulties are experienced during the meeting. 00:04:23.015 --> 00:04:25.003 Councillor Martin. 00:04:25.003 --> 00:04:27.008 Seconder? 00:04:27.008 --> 00:04:29.014 Councillor del Porto. 00:04:29.014 --> 00:04:31.005 All those in favour? 00:04:31.005 --> 00:04:32.017 Against? 00:04:32.017 --> 00:04:34.005 Carried. 00:04:34.005 --> 00:04:37.012 5, the adoption and confirmation of minutes of the previous meetings. 00:04:37.012 --> 00:04:40.003 5.1, confirmation of the minutes of the ordinary meeting 00:04:40.003 --> 00:04:42.023 of Bayside City Council held on 16 February. 00:04:42.023 --> 00:04:44.010 Can I have a mover? 00:04:44.010 --> 00:04:45.023 CR DEL PORTO: Moved. 00:04:45.023 --> 00:04:49.005 CR EVANS: Moved Councillor del Porto, seconded Councillor Castelli. 00:04:49.005 --> 00:04:50.017 All those in favour? 00:04:50.017 --> 00:04:52.005 Against? 00:04:52.005 --> 00:04:53.017 Carried. 00:04:53.017 --> 00:04:56.008 5.2, confirmation of the minutes of the special meeting 00:04:56.008 --> 00:04:58.015 of Bayside City Council held on 25 February 2021. 00:04:58.015 --> 00:05:00.005 Moved Councillor Martin. 00:05:00.005 --> 00:05:01.022 Seconded Councillor Stitfold. 00:05:01.022 --> 00:05:03.009 All those in favour? 00:05:03.009 --> 00:05:04.022 Against? 00:05:04.022 --> 00:05:06.020 Carried. 00:05:06.020 --> 00:05:08.014 Public question time, 6. 00:05:08.014 --> 00:05:11.004 In accordance with the temporary meeting procedures 00:05:11.004 --> 00:05:14.006 resolved at the March 2020 ordinary 00:05:14.006 --> 00:05:17.021 meeting of council, all public questions and responses 00:05:17.021 --> 00:05:21.012 will be read out, recorded in the minutes and responded 00:05:21.012 --> 00:05:26.011 to in writing, however, pursuant to chapter 2, section 57 00:05:26.011 --> 00:05:29.023 of council's governance rules, this is subject to a maximum 00:05:29.023 --> 00:05:34.008 of 15 minutes in duration set aside for public question time. 00:05:34.008 --> 00:05:38.024 There were eight public questions submitted to the meeting this evening. 00:05:38.024 --> 00:05:42.002 If your question is not read out, please be assured you 00:05:42.002 --> 00:05:45.002 will still receive a written response. 00:05:45.002 --> 00:05:47.018 Number 1, Mr Tony Taggart. 00:05:47.018 --> 00:05:49.022 Mr Tony Taggart has submitted a question 00:05:49.022 --> 00:05:53.021 regarding the Bayside Netball Centre, Holloway Road project, 00:05:53.021 --> 00:05:59.012 and Mr Taggart asks: Why can't the inappropriate netball project 00:05:59.012 --> 00:06:01.018 planned for Holloway Road be incorporated 00:06:01.018 --> 00:06:04.009 into the Wilson Street development proposal? 00:06:04.009 --> 00:06:05.022 Response from the CEO. 00:06:05.022 --> 00:06:07.009 OFFICER: Through you, Chair. 00:06:07.009 --> 00:06:10.014 The Wilson Recreational Reserve is not large enough 00:06:10.014 --> 00:06:13.009 to accommodate the required number of courts. 00:06:13.009 --> 00:06:16.005 CR EVANS: Number 2, Mr Miralem Basic. 00:06:16.005 --> 00:06:21.011 Mr Miralem Basic has submitted a question regarding amendment 165, 00:06:21.011 --> 00:06:27.023 5 and 7 Well Street, Brighton and Mr Basic asks: I approached 00:06:27.023 --> 00:06:32.006 my local councillor in Dendy ward regarding to item 10.3 00:06:32.006 --> 00:06:35.019 to be advised that he has a conflict of interest and 00:06:35.019 --> 00:06:39.006 as such cannot represent me on this matter. 00:06:39.006 --> 00:06:42.002 I would like to know why Councillor del Porto 00:06:42.002 --> 00:06:45.011 allowed to move a motion and vote in favour of the rezoning 00:06:45.011 --> 00:06:49.010 of 7 Well Street also in relation to a multiunit development 00:06:49.010 --> 00:06:52.002 in Well Street in the previous counsel term, 00:06:52.002 --> 00:06:54.012 considering he has the same conflict of interest 00:06:54.012 --> 00:06:56.004 as the Dendy ward councillor. 00:06:56.004 --> 00:06:58.012 Response from the CEO. 00:06:58.012 --> 00:07:02.021 OFFICER: Councillor del Porto was able to move a motion on the matter in the 00:07:02.021 --> 00:07:07.004 past as this was allowed under the rules pursuant 00:07:07.004 --> 00:07:10.007 to the Local Government Act 1989. 00:07:10.007 --> 00:07:12.023 The provisions have changed and the rules now 00:07:12.023 --> 00:07:17.002 in force in the Local Government Act 2020 prohibit Councillor del Porto 00:07:17.002 --> 00:07:20.011 from voting on this matter as he has a general conflict 00:07:20.011 --> 00:07:25.008 of interest which he has declared under the disclosure of conflict 00:07:25.008 --> 00:07:27.007 of interest section on tonight's agenda. 00:07:27.007 --> 00:07:29.016 CR EVANS: You will note that Councillor del Porto 00:07:29.016 --> 00:07:31.004 gave his reasons. 00:07:34.004 --> 00:07:35.021 3, Mr David Williams. 00:07:35.021 --> 00:07:40.002 Mr David Williams has submitted a question regarding amendment 165 - 00:07:40.002 --> 00:07:43.021 5 and 7 Well Street, Brighton, and his question relates 00:07:43.021 --> 00:07:48.017 to option 1 outlined in the report to undertake the strategic work 00:07:48.017 --> 00:07:54.017 necessary to support a car park at this location, and Mr Williams asks: 00:07:54.017 --> 00:07:58.011 Why not turn this space into a pocket park? 00:07:58.011 --> 00:08:00.005 Response from the CEO. 00:08:00.005 --> 00:08:03.014 OFFICER: Council has not previously considered the potential value 00:08:03.014 --> 00:08:07.007 of a land use such as a pocket park for 7 Well Street. 00:08:07.007 --> 00:08:10.019 However, agenda item 10.3 of tonight's meeting considers future 00:08:10.019 --> 00:08:15.016 land uses for 7 Well Street and recommends assessing the potential 00:08:15.016 --> 00:08:17.003 use of land uses including 00:08:17.003 --> 00:08:18.019 public open space. 00:08:18.019 --> 00:08:20.007 CR EVANS: Thank you. 00:08:22.014 --> 00:08:24.007 Number 4, Ms Sue Hardiman. 00:08:24.007 --> 00:08:27.023 Ms Sue Hardiman has submitted a question regarding catering 00:08:27.023 --> 00:08:33.021 for council meetings and gatherings and Ms Hardiman asks: Council meetings, 00:08:33.021 --> 00:08:38.002 what suppliers are the council using for catering for meetings council 00:08:38.002 --> 00:08:42.023 and council gatherings and how much is paid to each and every supplier 00:08:42.023 --> 00:08:45.006 for the meetings and functions? 00:08:45.006 --> 00:08:46.019 Mr CEO. 00:08:46.019 --> 00:08:49.005 OFFICER: Through you for the financial year to date, 00:08:49.005 --> 00:08:55.012 so that's 1 July 2020 to the present, the total cost of catering is $6,681. 00:08:55.012 --> 00:09:00.013 A table breaking that down into the relevant caters 00:09:00.013 --> 00:09:02.024 will be provided to Ms Hardiman. 00:09:02.024 --> 00:09:05.014 CR EVANS: Thank you. 00:09:05.014 --> 00:09:08.008 Number 5, Mr Kevin Howard. 00:09:08.008 --> 00:09:10.009 Mr Kevin Howard has submitted a question 00:09:10.009 --> 00:09:15.014 regarding public open space contributions and Mr Howard asks: 00:09:15.014 --> 00:09:20.021 I understand from a previous question that Sweden 1 July 2016 00:09:20.021 --> 00:09:28.016 and 31 December 2020, $7,492,500 has been received 00:09:28.016 --> 00:09:32.019 in public open space contributions from developments in Brighton, 00:09:32.019 --> 00:09:40.014 and that council has spent $1,930,893 on projects in Brighton, 00:09:40.014 --> 00:09:43.009 which has been funded from the open space reserve leaving 00:09:43.009 --> 00:09:49.009 a surplus of $5,561,607. 00:09:49.009 --> 00:09:56.012 Question part 1, specifically, which projects was the $1,930,893 00:09:56.012 --> 00:09:58.002 spent on? 00:09:58.002 --> 00:10:00.018 Question 2, why has council not spent any 00:10:00.018 --> 00:10:06.018 of their remaining $5,561,607 in open space contributions 00:10:06.018 --> 00:10:12.001 from Brighton on installing irrigation at Wilson Rec Reserve in Brighton, 00:10:12.001 --> 00:10:16.003 given that it's a primary use in winter is rugby and described by council 00:10:16.003 --> 00:10:20.010 as hard and lacks decent grass coverage? 00:10:20.010 --> 00:10:21.022 Response from the CEO. 00:10:21.022 --> 00:10:23.010 OFFICER: Through you, Chair. 00:10:23.010 --> 00:10:27.008 In response to part 1 of the question, a list of the projects that were funded 00:10:27.008 --> 00:10:31.007 will be provided to Mr Howard in writing. 00:10:35.015 --> 00:10:38.019 In relation to part 2, Wilson Recreation Reserve is allocated 00:10:38.019 --> 00:10:42.018 by council for low-level club cricket and school use 00:10:42.018 --> 00:10:45.009 and has not been prioritised in capital works programs 00:10:45.009 --> 00:10:48.020 as council has focused investment on sports grounds used 00:10:48.020 --> 00:10:52.007 by multiple sports and by more participants. 00:10:52.007 --> 00:10:54.016 CR EVANS: 6, Mr Kevin Howard again. 00:10:54.016 --> 00:10:56.021 Mr Kevin Howard as you mitted a second question 00:10:56.021 --> 00:11:00.022 regarding public open space and Mr Howard asks: My question relates 00:11:00.022 --> 00:11:05.009 to section 22.01 of the Bayside Planning Scheme titled 00:11:05.009 --> 00:11:07.010 public open space contributions. 00:11:07.010 --> 00:11:09.006 Question part 1. 00:11:09.006 --> 00:11:12.006 What is the total amount of accumulated funds that are currently 00:11:12.006 --> 00:11:14.009 available in the open space reserve. 00:11:14.009 --> 00:11:17.020 Question part 2, what land has been acquired by council 00:11:17.020 --> 00:11:21.021 for new useable public space in and around moderate 00:11:21.021 --> 00:11:24.024 and key focus residential growth areas? 00:11:24.024 --> 00:11:26.011 Response from the CEO. 00:11:26.011 --> 00:11:27.024 OFFICER: Through you, Chair. 00:11:27.024 --> 00:11:30.016 In response to part 1 of the question, the current balance 00:11:30.016 --> 00:11:34.009 of the open space reserve is $23.846 million. 00:11:34.009 --> 00:11:38.013 In response to part 2 of the question, council has acquired four hectares 00:11:38.013 --> 00:11:42.018 of additional open space in Highett as part of the previous CSIRO site. 00:11:42.018 --> 00:11:46.013 Council has also recently converted the previously exclusive use 00:11:46.013 --> 00:11:50.005 Elsternwick Golf Course into a new 14 hectare Elsternwick 00:11:50.005 --> 00:11:52.013 Park Nature Reserve. 00:11:52.013 --> 00:11:55.013 Moving the netball centre to Sandringham College Holloway Road 00:11:55.013 --> 00:12:00.004 campus also enables council to master plan a new 6 hectare open 00:12:00.004 --> 00:12:04.018 space at the previously ex collusively used driving range. 00:12:04.018 --> 00:12:08.021 And once netball relocates to its new site, council 00:12:08.021 --> 00:12:14.002 will also master plan the repurposing of a new 1 hectare public open space 00:12:14.002 --> 00:12:15.023 at the Thomas Street site. 00:12:15.023 --> 00:12:18.012 In total, 25 hectares of previously 00:12:18.012 --> 00:12:21.013 exclusively used or non-council owned land 00:12:21.013 --> 00:12:24.023 will be or has been converted to public open space 00:12:24.023 --> 00:12:26.021 in Bayside since 2019. 00:12:26.021 --> 00:12:30.021 CR EVANS: 7, Mr Paul Langley. 00:12:30.021 --> 00:12:32.019 Mr Paul Langley has submitted a question 00:12:32.019 --> 00:12:35.012 regarding Bayside Netball Centre - Holloway Road project 00:12:35.012 --> 00:12:39.002 and Mr Langley asks: Extract from the special meeting 00:12:39.002 --> 00:12:44.018 of council 25 February 2021, item 3.1 Bayside Netball Centre - 00:12:44.018 --> 00:12:46.012 Holloway Road proposal. 00:12:46.012 --> 00:12:50.009 Recommendation that council: 2, allocates 00:12:50.009 --> 00:12:58.002 a revised budget of $17,050,000 for the netball project. 00:12:58.002 --> 00:13:02.020 3, subject to successfully negotiating reasonable 00:13:02.020 --> 00:13:06.009 school hours access to the two indoor courts, 00:13:06.009 --> 00:13:10.003 allocates $1 million for the covered outdoor court facility. 00:13:10.003 --> 00:13:14.021 Please advise where these amounts of $17,050,000 00:13:14.021 --> 00:13:17.012 and additional $1 million are identified 00:13:17.012 --> 00:13:21.005 in the approved budget 2020-2021. 00:13:21.005 --> 00:13:24.024 A, what years were these amount carried forward from and where do 00:13:24.024 --> 00:13:27.009 they appear in the current approved budget? 00:13:27.009 --> 00:13:30.012 B, in addition, where are these amounts identified 00:13:30.012 --> 00:13:34.003 in the council's procurement policy 2020 or council's 00:13:34.003 --> 00:13:36.018 strategic resources plan 2020/21-2023/24? 00:13:40.022 --> 00:13:42.010 Response from the CEO. 00:13:42.010 --> 00:13:45.012 OFFICER: Through, you Chair, in response to part A of the question, 00:13:45.012 --> 00:13:48.002 the $24.6 million for the Bayside Netball Centre 00:13:48.002 --> 00:13:51.005 is allocated in the following years: 2020-21 00:13:53.011 --> 00:13:54.023 is $0.227 million. 00:13:54.023 --> 00:13:56.011 21-22, $1.032 million. 00:13:59.009 --> 00:14:05.020 22-23, $10.057 million and 23-24, $13.486 million. 00:14:05.020 --> 00:14:08.016 Please refer to the statement of capital works which appears 00:14:08.016 --> 00:14:12.021 on page 43 of the 2020-21 budget and page 9 00:14:12.021 --> 00:14:16.003 of the 20/21 strategic resource plan. 00:14:16.003 --> 00:14:19.021 In relation to part B of the question, council's procurement policy does not 00:14:19.021 --> 00:14:22.016 reference individual projects. 00:14:22.016 --> 00:14:25.018 CR EVANS: Mr Paul Langley has submitted a second question 00:14:25.018 --> 00:14:28.015 regarding the Bayside Netball Centre - Holloway Road project 00:14:28.015 --> 00:14:32.019 and Mr Langley asks: The following extract is from the ordinary meeting 00:14:32.019 --> 00:14:36.009 of council dated 22 December 2020. 00:14:36.009 --> 00:14:41.016 Item 10.1: Status of discussions with the VSBA 00:14:41.016 --> 00:14:46.002 and the College Council has signed a development agreement with the VSBA 00:14:46.002 --> 00:14:49.005 and has paid the first instalment of $750,000 00:14:49.005 --> 00:14:51.024 to commence the design development. 00:14:51.024 --> 00:14:57.003 The second instalment of $2.25 million is payable following the project 00:14:57.003 --> 00:15:00.024 control group's endorsement of the design development package. 00:15:00.024 --> 00:15:04.018 Current program timelines indicate this will likely occur 00:15:04.018 --> 00:15:07.023 in early February 2021. 00:15:07.023 --> 00:15:13.016 Please identify where the $750,000 already paid to the VSBA 00:15:13.016 --> 00:15:17.012 is shown in the approved budget 2020-2021. 00:15:17.012 --> 00:15:19.002 Response from the CEO. 00:15:19.002 --> 00:15:22.006 OFFICER: Through you, Chair, the $0.75 million already 00:15:22.006 --> 00:15:24.012 paid in 2020 - 21 has been partially funded 00:15:24.012 --> 00:15:28.015 from the $0.227 million allocated in the 20-21 budget 00:15:28.015 --> 00:15:32.006 with the balance broad forward from the $24.6 million allocated 00:15:32.006 --> 00:15:34.018 to the Bayside Netball Centre in the statement 00:15:34.018 --> 00:15:41.021 of capital works from the 20-21 budget and the strategic resource plan. 00:15:41.021 --> 00:15:47.011 CR EVANS: That concludes public question time. 00:15:47.011 --> 00:15:49.023 Section 7, reception of reading of petitions. 00:15:49.023 --> 00:15:53.003 There were no petitions submitted to this meeting. 00:15:53.003 --> 00:15:57.004 Section 8, minutes of advisory committee, 8.1, Assembly 00:15:57.004 --> 00:15:58.016 of Councillors record. 00:15:58.016 --> 00:16:00.004 Can I have a mover and seconder? 00:16:00.004 --> 00:16:03.004 Moved Councillor del Porto, seconded Councillor Martin. 00:16:03.004 --> 00:16:06.018 Recommendation that council notes the assembly of councillors 00:16:06.018 --> 00:16:08.006 as noted in there. 00:16:08.006 --> 00:16:09.021 All those in favour? 00:16:09.021 --> 00:16:11.009 Against? 00:16:11.009 --> 00:16:12.021 Carried. 00:16:12.021 --> 00:16:15.005 Section 9, reports by special committees. 00:16:15.005 --> 00:16:17.020 There were no reports for special committees submitted 00:16:17.020 --> 00:16:19.008 to this meeting. 00:16:22.005 --> 00:16:25.008 Section 10, reports by the organisation. 00:16:25.008 --> 00:16:26.022 Further to the temporary meeting 00:16:26.022 --> 00:16:31.020 procedures referenced earlier, temporary arrangements are also placed 00:16:31.020 --> 00:16:35.024 with regard to chapter 2, division 10 of council's governance rules, 00:16:35.024 --> 00:16:38.024 concerning individual presentations. 00:16:38.024 --> 00:16:41.005 Members of the public who would ordinarily have 00:16:41.005 --> 00:16:44.019 submitted a request to be heard in person at the meeting, 00:16:44.019 --> 00:16:49.006 have the opportunity to instead provide a written statement. 00:16:49.006 --> 00:16:52.013 A copy of the statements received was distributed to all councillors 00:16:52.013 --> 00:16:56.006 at approximately noon today and has been published as an attachment 00:16:56.006 --> 00:16:59.002 to the agenda on council's website. 00:16:59.002 --> 00:17:02.013 Councillors and viewers, we have 49 written statements 00:17:02.013 --> 00:17:05.017 in relation to items on this evening's agenda. 00:17:08.018 --> 00:17:11.023 10.1, expression of interest and possible future uses 00:17:11.023 --> 00:17:14.007 for Billilla homestead. 00:17:14.007 --> 00:17:17.014 There were 15 written statements received from the following members 00:17:17.014 --> 00:17:19.021 of the community. 00:17:19.021 --> 00:17:27.023 Mrs Jane Richardson, Mrs Ellen Weir, Mrs Esther Amott, Ms Avril Weir, 00:17:27.023 --> 00:17:35.008 Mr Matthew Weir, Ms Janine O'Neill, Dr Edward Quine Dr Jean-Luc. 00:17:35.008 --> 00:17:42.018 Ms Kate Harman, Mr Brenton Evans, Ms Diane Pickering, Mr Andrew Low, 00:17:42.018 --> 00:17:46.014 Ms Debbie Gutteridge, Mrs Helen O'Neill, 00:17:46.014 --> 00:17:50.007 and Ms Alison Joseph. 00:17:50.007 --> 00:17:53.011 We now have a mover and a seconder? 00:17:53.011 --> 00:17:54.024 CR DEL PORTO: Happy to move. 00:17:54.024 --> 00:17:57.022 CR EVANS: Happy to move the recommendation, thank you. 00:17:57.022 --> 00:18:00.008 Can I have a seconder? 00:18:00.008 --> 00:18:02.012 Seconded Councillor Castelli. 00:18:02.012 --> 00:18:05.011 CR DEL PORTO: Mr Mayor, thank you very much for that 00:18:05.011 --> 00:18:07.016 and I apologise for getting up too quickly. 00:18:07.016 --> 00:18:09.016 I was very keen to move this. 00:18:09.016 --> 00:18:13.002 It really gives me great pleasure to move this motion which 00:18:13.002 --> 00:18:17.017 will return this magnificent house back to the community. 00:18:17.017 --> 00:18:21.013 In the early 2000s council did take direct control 00:18:21.013 --> 00:18:27.010 of it when Spotless gave back the lease and I recall one year when we raised 00:18:27.010 --> 00:18:30.006 thousands of dollars in the Good Friday appeal. 00:18:30.006 --> 00:18:35.019 We opened up, it was a beautiful, I think it would have been, 00:18:35.019 --> 00:18:38.002 I don't know, Friday, obviously. 00:18:38.002 --> 00:18:40.013 It was the appeal but it may not have been the Friday, 00:18:40.013 --> 00:18:42.002 the Good Friday itself. 00:18:42.002 --> 00:18:43.023 But we raised thousands. 00:18:43.023 --> 00:18:48.010 We opened up the house, people loved it because it usually is not opened up. 00:18:48.010 --> 00:18:52.011 It was opened up and, you know, you had those wonderful bedrooms set 00:18:52.011 --> 00:18:54.011 up the way they would have been 100 years ago 00:18:54.011 --> 00:18:56.010 and people were walking around. 00:18:56.010 --> 00:18:58.004 And they really appreciated it. 00:18:58.004 --> 00:19:03.003 It was a wonderful day and I'm hoping that in the future, 00:19:03.003 --> 00:19:08.002 if council decides to support it, we will continue to do this. 00:19:08.002 --> 00:19:11.011 Maybe have committee management to get with council, 00:19:11.011 --> 00:19:18.005 if council decides hypothetically to go that way to run it. 00:19:18.005 --> 00:19:22.023 I can only say that people are approaching me and asking me 00:19:22.023 --> 00:19:25.002 whether they'd like to join the committee. 00:19:25.002 --> 00:19:27.007 We haven't got one yet. 00:19:27.007 --> 00:19:31.002 If council did want to go that way, I think we will have plenty 00:19:31.002 --> 00:19:33.003 of volunteers wanting to put their hand up. 00:19:33.003 --> 00:19:38.018 This is a property which, according to our own assessment, 00:19:38.018 --> 00:19:42.022 is of extraordinary listing example of the butler work. 00:19:42.022 --> 00:19:48.002 It chose a butler to the arts and craft style. 00:19:48.002 --> 00:19:53.006 The report says it's probably not appropriate to have a school 00:19:53.006 --> 00:19:59.006 of something like that type of industry work from it. 00:19:59.006 --> 00:20:02.005 So my view is that I would like to propose that we opt 00:20:02.005 --> 00:20:06.011 for option 2 which is to return council's direct control 00:20:06.011 --> 00:20:12.003 to enable a broader community access however that might be devised. 00:20:12.003 --> 00:20:16.012 And under this option, of course, council would have to give notice 00:20:16.012 --> 00:20:20.022 to the Yesodei Ha Torah College under the lease that it didn't intend 00:20:20.022 --> 00:20:24.012 to relet the site prior to the end of the lease. 00:20:24.012 --> 00:20:28.010 Council then work with the school to ensure the tenant's obligations are 00:20:28.010 --> 00:20:31.022 met and to make good where appropriate prior 00:20:31.022 --> 00:20:35.005 to determining the future use of the site. 00:20:35.005 --> 00:20:39.004 And as I said, a hybrid of community commercial uses and 00:20:39.004 --> 00:20:41.015 for the main house could be looked at. 00:20:41.015 --> 00:20:46.008 We've got a number of artists in residents who will use 00:20:46.008 --> 00:20:50.018 all the houses, the little rooms at the back already. 00:20:50.018 --> 00:20:57.003 You could have a cafe there using the commercial kitchen that exists, 00:20:57.003 --> 00:20:59.000 using part of the house. 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.018 But look, there's a number of options. 00:21:01.018 --> 00:21:04.016 That could offset some of the operating costs as well. 00:21:04.016 --> 00:21:10.015 A number of options we could pursue, either with committee management 00:21:10.015 --> 00:21:15.008 and council maybe having an umbrella-type 00:21:15.008 --> 00:21:17.008 approach to it. 00:21:17.008 --> 00:21:19.016 I'm not saying we should follow the art board model 00:21:19.016 --> 00:21:23.006 but something where they've got the independence but council 00:21:23.006 --> 00:21:26.006 will make sure that, you know, we're aware of what's going 00:21:26.006 --> 00:21:27.018 on sort of thing. 00:21:27.018 --> 00:21:30.005 So all in all, it's really - I'm really happy 00:21:30.005 --> 00:21:32.016 about it I'm sorry Councillor El Mouallem is not here 00:21:32.016 --> 00:21:36.008 because we've spoken about this several times. 00:21:36.008 --> 00:21:39.007 I know he's particularly supportive of this and we spoke 00:21:39.007 --> 00:21:40.023 about it several times. 00:21:40.023 --> 00:21:43.017 So I endorse this and I hope all councillors support it. 00:21:43.017 --> 00:21:45.017 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 00:21:45.017 --> 00:21:47.004 Councillor Castelli. 00:21:47.004 --> 00:21:48.022 CR CASTELLI: Thank you, Mr Mayor. 00:21:48.022 --> 00:21:53.011 Yes, I totally agree with Councillor del Porto's thing 00:21:53.011 --> 00:21:55.024 about what we could do with Billilla. 00:21:55.024 --> 00:22:00.008 There's plenty we can do, as indicated by Councillor del Porto. 00:22:00.008 --> 00:22:03.006 We can make it commercial, which could be really good. 00:22:03.006 --> 00:22:08.002 We've also got a budget that's been established, hopefully, 00:22:08.002 --> 00:22:13.019 that would - put in some - I think we need to do a lot 00:22:13.019 --> 00:22:15.012 of maintenance in there. 00:22:15.012 --> 00:22:18.012 I think that's also very important. 00:22:18.012 --> 00:22:23.024 And we've got an overwhelming lot of submissions here who are requesting 00:22:23.024 --> 00:22:28.002 yet to be a community place for them to go. 00:22:28.002 --> 00:22:32.019 They haven't, I think, you know, it's very hard, there is a lessee 00:22:32.019 --> 00:22:38.010 in there and it stops people going in there to have a look at the house. 00:22:38.010 --> 00:22:42.011 I think if we were to take it - if council was to take it 00:22:42.011 --> 00:22:46.012 in their hands, we could do so many things with it. 00:22:46.012 --> 00:22:54.008 We can have a lot of - we can put art in there, 00:22:54.008 --> 00:22:58.020 we can have little functions happening in there. 00:22:58.020 --> 00:23:02.002 We can, you know, there's a commercial kitchen, 00:23:02.002 --> 00:23:06.014 I think there is a commercial kitchen that would be - we could utilise it 00:23:06.014 --> 00:23:12.002 in in way, shape or form but as you know, we have a whole lot 00:23:12.002 --> 00:23:13.020 of submissions in here. 00:23:13.020 --> 00:23:22.002 They're happy with this request and, of course, option 2 is my option, 00:23:22.002 --> 00:23:23.015 preferred option here tonight. 00:23:23.015 --> 00:23:25.015 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Castelli. 00:23:25.015 --> 00:23:27.003 Any other councillors? 00:23:27.003 --> 00:23:28.015 Councillor Samuel-King. 00:23:28.015 --> 00:23:31.019 CR SAMUEL-KING: I almost got to second a motion 00:23:31.019 --> 00:23:36.022 and Hanna would have been happy to stand up quickly. 00:23:36.022 --> 00:23:41.002 What a beautiful homestead, right in the heart 00:23:41.002 --> 00:23:46.002 of middle Brighton that is crying out for a little bit of open space. 00:23:46.002 --> 00:23:48.024 And I think Mrs Jan Richardson says it all. 00:23:48.024 --> 00:23:52.006 Billilla needs to be for the community. 00:23:52.006 --> 00:23:55.015 I thank you, Mrs Richardson, for those words. 00:23:55.015 --> 00:23:59.005 I'm really pleased that we're going to start a process 00:23:59.005 --> 00:24:01.014 of community engagement. 00:24:01.014 --> 00:24:06.010 I'd really be interested in the community's ideas, their dreams 00:24:06.010 --> 00:24:08.003 for this place. 00:24:08.003 --> 00:24:14.003 For me, I see a garden something akin to the Riponi Estate. 00:24:18.015 --> 00:24:22.024 I'd love to create beautiful garden beds so 00:24:22.024 --> 00:24:28.002 we can have a little haven for people and small birds, even 00:24:28.002 --> 00:24:30.012 with a little pond or a water feature. 00:24:30.012 --> 00:24:34.003 I really can see this will be a lovely, lovely project 00:24:34.003 --> 00:24:37.003 and I really look forward to seeing something like a committee 00:24:37.003 --> 00:24:41.006 of management and we might even have a councillor or two 00:24:41.006 --> 00:24:42.018 on the committee of management. 00:24:42.018 --> 00:24:48.002 So I think this will be something that will be a real joy 00:24:48.002 --> 00:24:51.002 to see going forward in the next four years. 00:24:51.002 --> 00:24:53.007 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Samuel-King. 00:24:53.007 --> 00:24:56.007 Any other councillors? 00:24:56.007 --> 00:24:57.019 Councillor Martin. 00:24:57.019 --> 00:25:01.008 CR MARTIN: Just quickly, I did read the submission 00:25:01.008 --> 00:25:05.002 from the school and understand, you know, their concern. 00:25:05.002 --> 00:25:10.002 But it should be noted that the council has extended the lease already 00:25:10.002 --> 00:25:14.002 to bring it to a natural close at the end of the school term 00:25:14.002 --> 00:25:17.003 and I think, giving an option to extend it to the middle 00:25:17.003 --> 00:25:23.012 of the school year, you know, isn't really - to me, 00:25:23.012 --> 00:25:25.002 it just doesn't make sense. 00:25:25.002 --> 00:25:27.007 And you have had the extra year of COVID. 00:25:27.007 --> 00:25:32.009 So I think that that, you know, I support the current motion 00:25:32.009 --> 00:25:33.022 that we've got. 00:25:33.022 --> 00:25:36.018 But I have understood it and it certainly has got nothing - 00:25:36.018 --> 00:25:39.022 I notice some other submissions in here talk about discrimination. 00:25:39.022 --> 00:25:42.023 It's got nothing to do with that whatsoever. 00:25:42.023 --> 00:25:48.007 The other point that I would make is that, yes, this 00:25:48.007 --> 00:25:54.013 is returning hundreds of thousands of dollars to the council at the moment 00:25:54.013 --> 00:26:00.017 and we do need to ensure that any type of heritage building like this that 00:26:00.017 --> 00:26:03.008 is going to come back into the council portfolio 00:26:03.008 --> 00:26:09.024 for management has got a sustainable plan and I would just, you know, 00:26:09.024 --> 00:26:16.013 really ensure for councillors and the community, to keep an open mind 00:26:16.013 --> 00:26:19.005 in respect to this building. 00:26:19.005 --> 00:26:23.009 It can be used for a whole range of activities 00:26:23.009 --> 00:26:26.018 and things that we may not have even considered but we shouldn't rule out 00:26:26.018 --> 00:26:31.017 because it does cost a lot of money to maintain these and if you don't, 00:26:31.017 --> 00:26:33.016 if you haven't got that drive behind them, 00:26:33.016 --> 00:26:36.014 they can become into disrepair. 00:26:36.014 --> 00:26:40.013 You've got a different group of councillors elected and all 00:26:40.013 --> 00:26:42.019 of a sudden it can get back to where it was. 00:26:42.019 --> 00:26:44.021 So we don't want that to happen. 00:26:44.021 --> 00:26:47.015 So I really hope when we go out, we see all 00:26:47.015 --> 00:26:49.017 of these different really vibrant ideas. 00:26:49.017 --> 00:26:51.010 It's going to be a fantastic space. 00:26:51.010 --> 00:26:53.006 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Martin. 00:26:53.006 --> 00:26:55.002 Any other councillors? 00:26:55.002 --> 00:26:59.006 Before you close, Councillor del Porto, yes, I think it's a wonderful, 00:26:59.006 --> 00:27:01.024 very good recommendation. 00:27:01.024 --> 00:27:05.022 Returning it to the community is really what we're doing. 00:27:05.022 --> 00:27:09.018 Again, Councillor del Porto, I know you've said that you got 00:27:09.018 --> 00:27:14.006 the number of people knocking on the door to be part 00:27:14.006 --> 00:27:15.019 of the committee of management. 00:27:15.019 --> 00:27:17.006 That is fantastic. 00:27:17.006 --> 00:27:18.019 That's really what we want. 00:27:18.019 --> 00:27:21.016 We want champions that really want to look after that house, 00:27:21.016 --> 00:27:24.002 an historical house with a beautiful garden 00:27:24.002 --> 00:27:27.014 for the community to enjoy. 00:27:27.014 --> 00:27:30.002 You and I have talked about it, set opposite modelled 00:27:30.002 --> 00:27:33.022 like Black Rock committee of management. 00:27:33.022 --> 00:27:38.002 Returning it back to the community is something that I support. 00:27:38.002 --> 00:27:45.022 And, again, it's the people that will make it and I absolutely support 00:27:45.022 --> 00:27:49.002 the comment Councillor Martin and yourself and Councillor Castelli 00:27:49.002 --> 00:27:56.002 about the adjuncts to it, the things of a little cafe 00:27:56.002 --> 00:27:59.021 and also Councillor Castelli said about hanging our artworks. 00:27:59.021 --> 00:28:02.007 I think we did have Tommy Bent there at someone stage. 00:28:04.021 --> 00:28:08.010 So again, it will be place where the community needs 00:28:08.010 --> 00:28:13.024 to come to look at our beautiful homestead. 00:28:13.024 --> 00:28:15.022 I ask you to close, Councillor del Porto. 00:28:15.022 --> 00:28:18.012 CR DEL PORTO: We actually have a water feature already so 00:28:18.012 --> 00:28:22.016 the idea that Councillor Samuel-King had is already, you know, 00:28:22.016 --> 00:28:25.024 there's already a fountain that you can easily turn that 00:28:25.024 --> 00:28:28.002 into a bigger water feature. 00:28:28.002 --> 00:28:31.024 The community is already using especially, 00:28:31.024 --> 00:28:35.004 I think I was there on Melbourne Cup day, 00:28:35.004 --> 00:28:38.011 and I think I mentioned to Councillor Samuel-King 00:28:38.011 --> 00:28:41.011 and I think to Councillor Stitfold that every big tree had 00:28:41.011 --> 00:28:45.013 at least two or three groups of people socially distanced, you know, 00:28:45.013 --> 00:28:48.013 having - partaking of some mineral water, of course, 00:28:48.013 --> 00:28:52.016 and some soft drinks and all those sort of things. 00:28:52.016 --> 00:28:55.004 It was a really beautiful day. 00:28:55.004 --> 00:28:59.021 I am certainly looking forward to a variety of suggestions. 00:28:59.021 --> 00:29:04.020 I have not really going to lose any sleep if at the end 00:29:04.020 --> 00:29:10.018 of the day council has to come up with some money every year to keep 00:29:10.018 --> 00:29:14.002 up this beautiful property. 00:29:14.002 --> 00:29:16.020 There are other properties we had that would cost millions 00:29:16.020 --> 00:29:20.013 of dollars that I don't think have any potential return. 00:29:20.013 --> 00:29:24.009 This is a property we already own, right? 00:29:24.009 --> 00:29:27.006 It doesn't require millions of dollars to do up and 00:29:27.006 --> 00:29:29.012 as Councillor Castelli says, we have a shortage 00:29:29.012 --> 00:29:32.005 of wall space right now. 00:29:32.005 --> 00:29:35.003 Mostly because libraries, as you probably know, 00:29:35.003 --> 00:29:37.009 they've taken walls out. 00:29:37.009 --> 00:29:42.002 So we don't actually have a potential to show a lot of paintings, 00:29:42.002 --> 00:29:45.018 not extremely expensive paintings but paintings from our collection. 00:29:45.018 --> 00:29:51.008 So it would be a great idea to have some of those walls, 00:29:51.008 --> 00:29:53.019 particularly in the front rooms when we can get in 00:29:53.019 --> 00:29:59.002 to show councillors what it looks like, to turn into exhibition areas. 00:30:01.001 --> 00:30:06.014 You can have those temporary stands that you have now. 00:30:06.014 --> 00:30:10.024 So I am really looking forward to it and I just hope that we can 00:30:10.024 --> 00:30:14.011 get this done, if not by September by the end of the year. 00:30:14.011 --> 00:30:15.023 Thank you. 00:30:15.023 --> 00:30:17.024 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 00:30:17.024 --> 00:30:19.011 All those in favour? 00:30:19.011 --> 00:30:20.024 CR DEL PORTO: Division. 00:30:20.024 --> 00:30:22.015 CR EVANS: Division has been called. 00:30:22.015 --> 00:30:24.018 Councillor Castelli, Councillor del Porto, 00:30:24.018 --> 00:30:26.022 Councillor Martin, Councillor Samuel-King, 00:30:26.022 --> 00:30:28.020 Councillor Stitfold, Councillor Evans. 00:30:28.020 --> 00:30:30.008 It is carried. 00:30:30.008 --> 00:30:32.014 10.2, Tulip Street basketball 00:30:32.014 --> 00:30:34.022 court extension project - value management 00:30:34.022 --> 00:30:36.018 and planning permit processes. 00:30:36.018 --> 00:30:38.018 There are no written statements received. 00:30:38.018 --> 00:30:40.020 Can I have - Councillor Martin moving. 00:30:40.020 --> 00:30:43.016 CR MARTIN: I'd like to move with just an amendment, if I could. 00:30:43.016 --> 00:30:45.003 CR EVANS: Yes, thank you. 00:30:45.003 --> 00:30:48.009 CR MARTIN: If we can put a new amendment 00:30:48.009 --> 00:30:53.007 in that reads that council works with the Southern Basketball 00:30:53.007 --> 00:31:01.002 Association to identify ways to encourage cycling as a means 00:31:01.002 --> 00:31:03.021 of transport to the Tulip Street centre. 00:31:03.021 --> 00:31:06.014 CR DEL PORTO: Second. 00:31:06.014 --> 00:31:11.024 CR EVANS: So that becomes 4, 4 becomes 5 and then 5 becomes 6 00:31:11.024 --> 00:31:13.012 from the recommendation. 00:31:13.012 --> 00:31:14.024 Thank you, yes. 00:31:14.024 --> 00:31:17.009 You've moved and seconded by Councillor del Porto. 00:31:17.009 --> 00:31:18.022 Councillor Martin. 00:31:18.022 --> 00:31:20.024 CR MARTIN: Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 00:31:20.024 --> 00:31:24.009 Look, this is a report on the planning permit processes 00:31:24.009 --> 00:31:28.013 but also the value management which is council talk to say that we need a 00:31:28.013 --> 00:31:32.018 little bit more money and we also need to pare back the project just 00:31:32.018 --> 00:31:34.021 a little bit. 00:31:34.021 --> 00:31:37.002 Now, with the planning 00:31:37.002 --> 00:31:41.022 processes around this, under page 50, it does talk 00:31:41.022 --> 00:31:46.022 about the ecological advice we got and the options that we went through 00:31:46.022 --> 00:31:50.018 and we are definitely going through the preferred option which 00:31:50.018 --> 00:31:54.010 is option 2, which is preferred by the Friends of Native Wildlife which 00:31:54.010 --> 00:31:58.019 is moving the building further west and therefore wider connection which 00:31:58.019 --> 00:32:01.011 is going to be 24 metres achieved between Reserve Road 00:32:01.011 --> 00:32:04.002 and the proposed building and it includes retention 00:32:04.002 --> 00:32:07.016 of the Cyprus trees and planting in the understorey. 00:32:07.016 --> 00:32:11.024 But I would just like to remind everyone that way before 00:32:11.024 --> 00:32:16.010 all of that, we did a quality survey on putting the building 00:32:16.010 --> 00:32:21.019 into the wetlands and that was definitely not accepted 00:32:21.019 --> 00:32:23.010 by pretty much everyone. 00:32:23.010 --> 00:32:27.020 The only problem was the only other place for it to go was to go 00:32:27.020 --> 00:32:29.008 onto the golf course. 00:32:29.008 --> 00:32:32.024 Now the golf course had, I think, at that stage, a 22-year lease, 00:32:32.024 --> 00:32:35.009 and they did point out if that you were going to put it 00:32:35.009 --> 00:32:38.009 onto the golf course we were going to have to move a tee and 00:32:38.009 --> 00:32:41.009 to move the tee they were going to have to pretty much rebuild 00:32:41.009 --> 00:32:44.023 the entire golf course, which was a pretty big ask at the time. 00:32:44.023 --> 00:32:48.009 But miraculously over the journey that's exactly 00:32:48.009 --> 00:32:49.022 what we've done. 00:32:49.022 --> 00:32:53.005 We've been able to do an agreement with the lessee 00:32:53.005 --> 00:32:59.002 of the golf course who has now completely redone 18 holes 00:32:59.002 --> 00:33:02.015 at the golf course which then allows us to put the four course 00:33:02.015 --> 00:33:08.004 into what used to be a tee and we've now achieved 24 metres 00:33:08.004 --> 00:33:13.011 of Reserve Road which is going to provide a better habitat and outcome 00:33:13.011 --> 00:33:18.010 for the burrowing species of frogs that are located in that site. 00:33:18.010 --> 00:33:22.021 So we've done a lot of work, a lot of work to achieve this outcome 00:33:22.021 --> 00:33:27.014 for the community, for the frogs, for the habitat, for the wildlife, 00:33:27.014 --> 00:33:33.013 for the trees and I think that it's a remarkable achievement. 00:33:33.013 --> 00:33:38.003 And the Southern Basketball Association have gome through this with us. 00:33:38.003 --> 00:33:40.023 They would have preferred to have the four courts, I'm sure, 00:33:40.023 --> 00:33:43.017 ten years ago, but this is what it takes to get a good outcome. 00:33:43.017 --> 00:33:45.012 It's sometimes what it takes. 00:33:45.012 --> 00:33:51.002 So, the main point is options of what we have to do, 00:33:51.002 --> 00:33:55.020 and that's why I have proposed this amendment to it tonight because, 00:33:55.020 --> 00:33:59.023 unfortunately, we are going to remove the proposed bike shed. 00:33:59.023 --> 00:34:02.017 Now, that is something that I'm a little bit concerned about 00:34:02.017 --> 00:34:05.014 because it's currently got four courts on the site now. 00:34:05.014 --> 00:34:09.003 We're proposing to double that to eight courts, which 00:34:09.003 --> 00:34:13.002 to me would mean there's going to be a lot more people coming to the site. 00:34:13.002 --> 00:34:16.024 Now, if they all come currently as they do in their cars, 00:34:16.024 --> 00:34:19.024 I'm not sure you'll ever have enough car parks at that site. 00:34:19.024 --> 00:34:24.002 So there are ways of putting wayfinding systems 00:34:24.002 --> 00:34:30.006 around a service like this that are about 1.5 to 2 kilometres away 00:34:30.006 --> 00:34:34.004 to encourage people into that precinct by bike. 00:34:34.004 --> 00:34:38.015 But also to put some traffic management things 00:34:38.015 --> 00:34:42.007 around that 2 kilometre radius that encourages people to get 00:34:42.007 --> 00:34:45.009 on the bikes, and the good news here is Tulip Street already has 00:34:45.009 --> 00:34:48.013 a prescribed bike lane on it and so has Reserve Road. 00:34:48.013 --> 00:34:51.021 They're two roads that intersect with the basketball facility. 00:34:51.021 --> 00:34:55.013 So I would really like to see, as we progress with this project, 00:34:55.013 --> 00:35:01.015 we progress with the change of behaviour that's required, and even 00:35:01.015 --> 00:35:06.007 if you encourage 20 people on bikes, that takes 20 cars off the road. 00:35:06.007 --> 00:35:08.002 These things make a difference. 00:35:08.002 --> 00:35:09.022 A big, big difference. 00:35:09.022 --> 00:35:13.008 I just heard the other day that all this money spent on a bike lane, 00:35:13.008 --> 00:35:16.017 you might only take four or five bikes an hour off. 00:35:16.017 --> 00:35:20.008 Well, let's a lot of cars coming off the road as well. 00:35:20.008 --> 00:35:23.002 So it's the same thing with these courts. 00:35:23.002 --> 00:35:26.016 So, look, there's some other things that have had to come off as well, 00:35:26.016 --> 00:35:31.012 including the half Court outside, the air lock foyer, which 00:35:31.012 --> 00:35:35.013 is these are the sort of things that have to occur, 00:35:35.013 --> 00:35:38.007 but I think that we're all set to go. 00:35:38.007 --> 00:35:41.022 I think by getting this agreement with the native wildlife Friends 00:35:41.022 --> 00:35:44.012 of Native Wildlife, that really does set us up 00:35:44.012 --> 00:35:47.019 for the next stage of this, which is the planning stage, 00:35:47.019 --> 00:35:51.002 and I believe it's coming to Council pretty soon and I think 00:35:51.002 --> 00:35:54.002 with these changes if they get through tonight it's really going 00:35:54.002 --> 00:35:55.014 to help that process. 00:35:55.014 --> 00:35:58.002 CR EVANS: Thank you, Cr Martin, Councillor del Porto? 00:35:58.002 --> 00:36:02.014 CR DEL PORTO: Mr Mayor, I really enjoy seconding this motion. 00:36:02.014 --> 00:36:05.020 As I was talking to Cr Martin before the meeting, 00:36:05.020 --> 00:36:09.003 I have been associated with the basketball the SBA 00:36:09.003 --> 00:36:14.002 for maybe 30 years or more through my kids, who are now 00:36:14.002 --> 00:36:15.016 in their 30s and 40s, mind you. 00:36:15.016 --> 00:36:20.024 But the thing about car park and I support the extra cycling, 00:36:20.024 --> 00:36:22.012 encouraging cycling. 00:36:22.012 --> 00:36:24.016 The thing about the car parking in the precinct 00:36:24.016 --> 00:36:27.020 has always been really interesting because I think I mentioned this 00:36:27.020 --> 00:36:30.015 already once before, people going there, 00:36:30.015 --> 00:36:33.011 if they don't ride their bike, they bring their kids usually, 00:36:33.011 --> 00:36:37.003 or a number of kids, if you're taking two or 00:36:37.003 --> 00:36:41.007 three other kid, you watch the game and then you get back in the car 00:36:41.007 --> 00:36:45.019 and you're out, so there's a lot of staggering going on and I have never 00:36:45.019 --> 00:36:47.007 with four courts. 00:36:47.007 --> 00:36:50.014 I have never not found a car park either in the car park area or 00:36:50.014 --> 00:36:52.002 on Tulip Street. 00:36:52.002 --> 00:36:56.011 So I'm not as worried about the car parking not being able 00:36:56.011 --> 00:37:00.021 to be enough there for them as other councillors are. 00:37:00.021 --> 00:37:03.012 Look, I'm glad that the southern basketball 00:37:03.012 --> 00:37:07.014 association has actually decided to increase their lease back 00:37:07.014 --> 00:37:11.002 contribution from 1.5 to $2 million over 20 years. 00:37:13.002 --> 00:37:15.020 I support the basketball club. 00:37:15.020 --> 00:37:19.016 The basketball club has been trying to get these four courts for 20 years 00:37:19.016 --> 00:37:23.009 and I think they've needed it for 20 years. 00:37:23.009 --> 00:37:27.013 But I think also they do have a bit of a business model. 00:37:27.013 --> 00:37:31.016 Some of them do pay to get in to have a look at the games 00:37:31.016 --> 00:37:37.008 and this originally was an $8 million project which I recall in this chamber, 00:37:37.008 --> 00:37:39.020 I know it's a different committee but nevertheless, 00:37:39.020 --> 00:37:43.002 in this chamber they were going to put in $4 million and they were going 00:37:43.002 --> 00:37:47.002 to put in $4 million it's now become a $12 million project 00:37:47.002 --> 00:37:51.012 and they're putting in $1 million and $2 million on a leaseback. 00:37:51.012 --> 00:37:53.002 I'm happy with that. 00:37:53.002 --> 00:37:57.012 I understand that they've done their best to look for grants from State 00:37:57.012 --> 00:37:59.021 and federal and they've not been successful, 00:37:59.021 --> 00:38:01.009 as much as the netball people 00:38:01.009 --> 00:38:02.021 have been successful. 00:38:02.021 --> 00:38:05.021 So once that happened late last year I this I recall 00:38:05.021 --> 00:38:10.012 in this chamber saying I don't see any way other than putting our hands 00:38:10.012 --> 00:38:12.002 in our pockets. 00:38:19.013 --> 00:38:22.017 The solar panels, which I think 00:38:22.017 --> 00:38:31.021 council is spending $660,000 on it, or thereabouts, hopefully 00:38:31.021 --> 00:38:36.022 will provide them with maybe even some credits 00:38:36.022 --> 00:38:39.020 and some money back - put power back in the grid and 00:38:39.020 --> 00:38:41.015 they might be able to make a few dollars 00:38:41.015 --> 00:38:43.003 out of that as well. 00:38:43.003 --> 00:38:44.015 So that's not a bad idea. 00:38:44.015 --> 00:38:48.009 I mean basketball courts, the ones that I've dealt with, ABA, 00:38:48.009 --> 00:38:51.004 they don't have air-conditioning, they don't need it. 00:38:51.004 --> 00:38:54.007 It gets a bit cool in winter and a bit hot in summer 00:38:54.007 --> 00:38:55.022 but that's the way it is. 00:38:55.022 --> 00:38:59.009 I think that - I'm hoping and I'm just hoping that at the end 00:38:59.009 --> 00:39:01.013 of the day our investment in solar panel 00:39:01.013 --> 00:39:05.016 is not just environmentally sound but also financially a bit of an extra 00:39:05.016 --> 00:39:08.008 for them and they can make a few dollars that way. 00:39:08.008 --> 00:39:10.002 So all in all, well done. 00:39:10.002 --> 00:39:12.013 CR EVANS: Thank you very much, Councillor del Porto. 00:39:12.013 --> 00:39:14.002 Councillor Samuel-King. 00:39:14.002 --> 00:39:16.009 CR SAMUEL-KING: I would also like to support this. 00:39:22.011 --> 00:39:27.009 I see in the SBA a great number of players 00:39:27.009 --> 00:39:34.002 and a great degree of patience, ten years, flexibility, 00:39:34.002 --> 00:39:38.019 they have worked incredibly well as far as I can tell with officers and also 00:39:38.019 --> 00:39:44.019 with the Friends of Native Wildlife to accommodate the environmental 00:39:44.019 --> 00:39:47.012 concerns and also capacity to 00:39:47.012 --> 00:39:51.011 actually contribute the co-contribution 00:39:51.011 --> 00:39:57.002 So fantastic organisation, very happy to support this proposal 00:39:57.002 --> 00:39:58.015 and these amendments. 00:39:58.015 --> 00:40:03.001 I'd also like to commend the officers, I don't know if we're meant to do this, 00:40:03.001 --> 00:40:08.000 but I have been incredibly impressed with the way that Mick Cummins, 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:12.004 Adam McSwain, Damien Van Trea and Amy Weir have worked 00:40:12.004 --> 00:40:16.024 with not just the Southern Basketball Association but also with the Friends 00:40:16.024 --> 00:40:23.004 of Native Wildlife to come up with creative ways to make this work, 00:40:23.004 --> 00:40:27.017 both for wildlife and for the basketballers. 00:40:27.017 --> 00:40:29.021 I think there's more to come on parking. 00:40:29.021 --> 00:40:36.016 I think in planning we may be able to save some beautiful big gum trees. 00:40:36.016 --> 00:40:39.008 I would love to see us make that a precedent 00:40:39.008 --> 00:40:43.003 and we'll talk more about that in future. 00:40:43.003 --> 00:40:45.023 But right now this is fantastic. 00:40:45.023 --> 00:40:53.004 The icing on the cake is the $600,000 of solar panels. 00:40:53.004 --> 00:40:56.014 I think we need to think very carefully about that 00:40:56.014 --> 00:41:02.012 to make sure that that solar power is actually being fed into the grid. 00:41:02.012 --> 00:41:06.009 There can be issues with solar power actually not being fed 00:41:06.009 --> 00:41:10.006 into the grid and for the most use of that, both 00:41:10.006 --> 00:41:15.011 from an environmental that we use that $600,000 worth 00:41:15.011 --> 00:41:19.016 of solar power to maximise both environmental 00:41:19.016 --> 00:41:22.002 and community and economic benefits. 00:41:22.002 --> 00:41:24.010 So I would like to consider that further. 00:41:24.010 --> 00:41:26.005 Very happy to support this. 00:41:26.005 --> 00:41:27.018 CR EVANS: Thank you. 00:41:27.018 --> 00:41:29.005 Any other councillors? 00:41:29.005 --> 00:41:31.017 Councillor Stitfold and then Councillor Castelli. 00:41:31.017 --> 00:41:33.004 Councillor Stitfold. 00:41:33.004 --> 00:41:36.013 CR STITFOLD: I would quickly like to say I think this project highlights 00:41:36.013 --> 00:41:39.017 the possibilities of collaboration between environmental groups 00:41:39.017 --> 00:41:41.004 and sporting groups. 00:41:41.004 --> 00:41:43.005 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Stitfold. 00:41:43.005 --> 00:41:44.020 I was going to mention that later on. 00:41:44.020 --> 00:41:46.008 Councillor Castelli. 00:41:46.008 --> 00:41:48.014 CR CASTELLI: Yes, that's what I was going to say. 00:41:48.014 --> 00:41:53.009 It's amazing sporting lobbies, biodiversity, all - it was 00:41:53.009 --> 00:41:54.021 all planned wonderfully. 00:41:54.021 --> 00:41:58.023 I want to help out and I think councils want to help 00:41:58.023 --> 00:42:03.012 out sporting lobby, especially concerning basketball and, of course, 00:42:03.012 --> 00:42:05.002 netball. 00:42:05.002 --> 00:42:07.019 We've put money into that and it's great to be able 00:42:07.019 --> 00:42:11.010 to put some money into basketball as well. 00:42:11.010 --> 00:42:15.007 They've been going for over so many years. 00:42:15.007 --> 00:42:19.008 There were shortages in courts, of course, and I'm happy 00:42:19.008 --> 00:42:23.007 to put the money for those. 00:42:23.007 --> 00:42:28.012 But it all works out with the biodiversity, the habitat, 00:42:28.012 --> 00:42:33.017 also I was also reading that the lights are dimmed, they're very dim 00:42:33.017 --> 00:42:37.012 in certain parts closer to the habitats, which is really, 00:42:37.012 --> 00:42:39.017 really, really good. 00:42:39.017 --> 00:42:42.007 Another important aspect was the frogs. 00:42:42.007 --> 00:42:48.017 So happy that they're not, you know, they're not going to be hurt 00:42:48.017 --> 00:42:51.017 in any way, which is really fabulous. 00:42:51.017 --> 00:42:55.023 But it's a great thing, the $600,000 for the solar, 00:42:55.023 --> 00:42:57.010 I think that's a great thing. 00:42:57.010 --> 00:42:59.020 So that way they will save - I think it's a great way 00:42:59.020 --> 00:43:01.022 of making money, actually. 00:43:01.022 --> 00:43:05.014 And also the membership, they've got some membership. 00:43:05.014 --> 00:43:11.015 I think they pay up to about $4, I think, something like that, 00:43:11.015 --> 00:43:13.003 for a person. 00:43:13.003 --> 00:43:15.014 So they're able to pay back some money towards this 00:43:15.014 --> 00:43:18.012 over 20 years which is really fantastic. 00:43:18.012 --> 00:43:22.020 And I think there's also, like, a $25 membership as well. 00:43:22.020 --> 00:43:26.024 So I think it all - I think it all adds up very nicely. 00:43:26.024 --> 00:43:33.013 You've got your biodiversity all happy, friends of the habitat, of course, 00:43:33.013 --> 00:43:35.006 and you've got your sporting lobby. 00:43:35.006 --> 00:43:36.019 Wonderful. 00:43:36.019 --> 00:43:38.006 That's really fantastic. 00:43:38.006 --> 00:43:40.014 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Castelli. 00:43:40.014 --> 00:43:45.017 Before you close, Councillor Martin, long, long journey. 00:43:47.023 --> 00:43:51.018 The first of all, the disappointment of the Southern Basketball Association 00:43:51.018 --> 00:43:58.011 when the council said you cannot extend to the east across the lovely parkland. 00:43:58.011 --> 00:44:02.022 The disappointment about that and well, where are we going. 00:44:02.022 --> 00:44:07.008 Then the journey for, as Councillor Martin has said, 00:44:07.008 --> 00:44:11.014 to shorten the golf course, I think it was the old 7th and the 8th, 00:44:11.014 --> 00:44:15.003 the par 3 coming up and the par 4 going down Reserve Road, 00:44:15.003 --> 00:44:18.017 shortening those so that they could go there. 00:44:18.017 --> 00:44:24.002 And they said well, that's terrific, that's not a bad decision there. 00:44:24.002 --> 00:44:28.010 And then the thing I've - well, you know, 00:44:28.010 --> 00:44:32.007 there's an important habitat corridor there, and it is. 00:44:32.007 --> 00:44:35.011 And the amount of work, I think a number 00:44:35.011 --> 00:44:39.006 of councillors have said about it, our officers, Friends 00:44:39.006 --> 00:44:43.011 of Native Wildlife and the basketball association have 00:44:43.011 --> 00:44:48.020 come together to get a compromise that is something I think 00:44:48.020 --> 00:44:51.012 is really a credit to everybody. 00:44:51.012 --> 00:44:55.017 I honestly think that after the length of time I think it 00:44:55.017 --> 00:45:02.010 is a really sensational outcome and, again, it's been a long time 00:45:02.010 --> 00:45:05.014 but I think the outcome is really fantastic 00:45:05.014 --> 00:45:11.011 and it's one of those, I think - the meetings on-site about where 00:45:11.011 --> 00:45:17.002 to move it to the west after, to get a corridor 00:45:17.002 --> 00:45:23.022 between the golf course and the native garden there, again, 00:45:23.022 --> 00:45:25.015 I think was sensational. 00:45:25.015 --> 00:45:29.011 So I really - I think it's a credit to officers 00:45:29.011 --> 00:45:33.015 and also the basketball association and the Friends 00:45:33.015 --> 00:45:42.003 of Native Wildlife getting together and coming up with a good solution. 00:45:42.003 --> 00:45:43.015 Thank you for that. 00:45:43.015 --> 00:45:46.006 After a long time, Councillor Martin, you wish to close. 00:45:46.006 --> 00:45:47.018 CR MARTIN: Thank you. 00:45:47.018 --> 00:45:49.018 And I really do appreciate all of the words 00:45:49.018 --> 00:45:51.005 from the fellow councillors. 00:45:51.005 --> 00:45:53.010 It sounds like this will be unanimous tonight. 00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:56.007 I really do want to just finish by really 00:45:56.007 --> 00:45:59.002 congratulating Phil McFarland. 00:45:59.002 --> 00:46:05.005 He became president in a kind of difficult time and 00:46:05.005 --> 00:46:11.009 he has led that new board to positions of community leadership, 00:46:11.009 --> 00:46:13.021 understanding what the people really want, 00:46:13.021 --> 00:46:19.002 the stakeholders really want, and the real, you know, the restraints 00:46:19.002 --> 00:46:22.016 on that system, the restrictions that we all faced. 00:46:22.016 --> 00:46:26.002 And to hear that the board supports this, 00:46:26.002 --> 00:46:28.012 they can reach into the pockets a bit deeper, 00:46:28.012 --> 00:46:30.012 they can achieve what they have to achieve, 00:46:30.012 --> 00:46:34.002 I think Phil McFarland has led that ball to a whole new level 00:46:34.002 --> 00:46:36.016 and I hope he can hold them to that level as well. 00:46:36.016 --> 00:46:38.004 Thank you very much. 00:46:38.004 --> 00:46:40.015 CR EVANS: All those in favour. 00:46:40.015 --> 00:46:42.002 CR DEL PORTO: Division. 00:46:42.002 --> 00:46:44.017 CR EVANS: Councillor Castelli, Councillor del Porto, 00:46:44.017 --> 00:46:46.021 Councillor Martin, Councillor Samuel-King, 00:46:46.021 --> 00:46:48.019 Councillor Stitfold, Councillor Evans. 00:46:48.019 --> 00:46:50.006 It's been passed. 00:46:50.006 --> 00:46:51.019 Thank you. 00:46:51.019 --> 00:46:57.002 10.3, amendment 165 bays 5 and 7 Well Street. 00:46:57.002 --> 00:46:58.012 Councillor del Porto. 00:47:00.016 --> 00:47:04.002 CR DEL PORTO: I have a general conflict of interest as I own a property 00:47:04.002 --> 00:47:05.014 in Well Street. 00:47:05.014 --> 00:47:09.010 It will be conflicted with whatever is discussed at council on this item 00:47:09.010 --> 00:47:12.023 and whatever's decided upon so I've prepared the form. 00:47:12.023 --> 00:47:15.005 CR EVANS: I've got to read the written statement. 00:47:18.002 --> 00:47:23.009 I'm sorry, Sydney Swans, I've got to read the statements. 00:47:23.009 --> 00:47:27.008 We'll wait for Councillor del Porto to go. 00:47:32.009 --> 00:47:34.012 Thank you, there were 34 written statements 00:47:34.012 --> 00:47:38.014 received from the following members of the community: Mr Maneesh Shah, 00:47:38.014 --> 00:47:45.011 Mrs Leasa Cahill, Mr Miralem Basic, Mrs Julie Avery, Mr Graeme Goode, 00:47:45.011 --> 00:47:47.016 Mr Keiran Cromie on behalf of the Church 00:47:47.016 --> 00:47:54.011 Street Traders Association, Mr Julian Kardis, Mr Greg Smith, 00:47:54.011 --> 00:48:02.002 Mrs Elizabeth Neal, Mr Jason Belzycki, Mr Steve Hitchings, 00:48:02.002 --> 00:48:09.011 Mrs Joan Charbonnier, Mr Garry Holloway, Ms Judith Schilling, 00:48:09.011 --> 00:48:16.014 Mr Kerry Quinn, Mr David Stewart, Mr Pat Troy, Mrs Susan Becker, 00:48:16.014 --> 00:48:22.012 Miss Kate Becker, Mrs Jan Reeves, Ms Amanda Levi, on behalf 00:48:22.012 --> 00:48:26.024 of the Bayside Dog Alliance, Mr Nicholas Zampelis, 00:48:26.024 --> 00:48:33.015 Ms Sharon Vaughan, Mr Howard Grant, Mr Tim Scully, Ms Stavroula Psonis, 00:48:33.015 --> 00:48:39.022 Mrs Denise Kinnon, Mr Joshua Goldstat, Mr John Kardis, Mr David Rothfield 00:48:39.022 --> 00:48:42.017 on behalf of the Bayside Climate 00:48:42.017 --> 00:48:48.007 Crisis Action Group, Mr Kevin Howard, Ms Alison Joseph, Ms Dianne Anderson, 00:48:48.007 --> 00:48:50.016 and Ms Kae Ferguson. 00:48:50.016 --> 00:48:52.004 Can I have a mover, please? 00:48:52.004 --> 00:48:54.021 CR SAMUEL-KING: I would like to move an alternate motion, 00:48:54.021 --> 00:48:56.008 if I could, please. 00:48:56.008 --> 00:49:00.023 CR EVANS: Would you like to read the alternate motion? 00:49:00.023 --> 00:49:04.024 CR SAMUEL-KING : That council undertakes community 00:49:04.024 --> 00:49:07.022 engagement to understand community views 00:49:07.022 --> 00:49:12.021 on the potential use of 7 Well Street for public open space 00:49:12.021 --> 00:49:16.012 and completes a study on the opportunities and constraints 00:49:16.012 --> 00:49:19.014 at the site for public open space. 00:49:19.014 --> 00:49:25.021 2, considers relevant council strategic directions in undertaking the study, 00:49:25.021 --> 00:49:29.021 including the Bayside 2050 community vision, 00:49:29.021 --> 00:49:34.016 climate emergency action plan, open space strategy 2012 00:49:34.016 --> 00:49:39.002 and the biodiversity action plan 2018. 00:49:39.002 --> 00:49:42.010 3, allocates $40,000 in the operating budget 00:49:42.010 --> 00:49:45.012 to complete the community engagement and study. 00:49:45.012 --> 00:49:51.009 4, receives a report at the September 2021 ordinary council 00:49:51.009 --> 00:49:55.002 meeting on the community engagement and study findings. 00:49:55.002 --> 00:49:59.005 And considers the implications of the appropriate land use 00:49:59.005 --> 00:50:01.000 of 7 Well Street. 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.000 CR EVANS: Do we have a seconder? 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.024 Seconded Councillor Castelli. 00:50:04.024 --> 00:50:07.013 Councillor Samuel-King, you may debate. 00:50:07.013 --> 00:50:12.005 CR SAMUEL-KING: 7 Well Street is a small block of land 00:50:12.005 --> 00:50:15.017 and might be considered a small matter. 00:50:15.017 --> 00:50:20.024 However, it is about issues and value that is are much bigger than 00:50:20.024 --> 00:50:23.016 the size of the land. 00:50:23.016 --> 00:50:26.020 It's about public open space. 00:50:26.020 --> 00:50:33.006 Open space matters to people the people of Middle Brighton have been crying out 00:50:33.006 --> 00:50:37.012 for a little tiny bit of open space for a very long time. 00:50:37.012 --> 00:50:41.023 For El Mouallem 10 years now, the 2012 open space strategy made it 00:50:41.023 --> 00:50:46.024 very clear that Middle Brighton was very short of it and in that ten years, 00:50:46.024 --> 00:50:50.021 not a single square metre has been given to them. 00:50:50.021 --> 00:50:56.002 The COVID lockdowns only serve to highlight this issue. 00:50:56.002 --> 00:51:00.019 It is also about putting residents first. 00:51:00.019 --> 00:51:06.002 Residents have asked us for years now to consider building a pocket park 00:51:06.002 --> 00:51:07.019 on 7 Well Street. 00:51:07.019 --> 00:51:10.019 Finally, we are doing just that. 00:51:10.019 --> 00:51:13.005 We are listening to residents and particularly 00:51:13.005 --> 00:51:18.006 to the residents who are most affected by the decisions that we, as council, 00:51:18.006 --> 00:51:19.019 make. 00:51:19.019 --> 00:51:21.018 It's also about trees. 00:51:21.018 --> 00:51:25.005 Bayside City Council and residents love our trees. 00:51:25.005 --> 00:51:29.021 We don't want to see them cut down and we want to plant more. 00:51:29.021 --> 00:51:32.008 But to do this we need land. 00:51:32.008 --> 00:51:36.002 And turning 7 Well Street into a pocket park gives us 00:51:36.002 --> 00:51:39.002 that opportunity in a small way. 00:51:39.002 --> 00:51:44.009 It is also about the climate crisis and climate action. 00:51:44.009 --> 00:51:50.002 We have declared a climate emergency and if we are serious about acting 00:51:50.002 --> 00:51:54.011 on this emergency, we will realise that the age 00:51:54.011 --> 00:51:56.023 of cars is passing. 00:51:56.023 --> 00:52:03.003 It is time for us to lose our car parks and plant trees in their place. 00:52:03.003 --> 00:52:07.012 It is absolutely vital for all of our futures and the future 00:52:07.012 --> 00:52:10.020 of liveability of our cities. 00:52:10.020 --> 00:52:13.010 It is also about integrity. 00:52:13.010 --> 00:52:16.019 If we are really serious about climate change action, 00:52:16.019 --> 00:52:20.004 about open space, about sustainable transport, 00:52:20.004 --> 00:52:25.012 then we must act in ways that reflect this. 00:52:25.012 --> 00:52:28.009 My own vision for this site is a little pocket park 00:52:28.009 --> 00:52:31.002 and a little community meeting space. 00:52:31.002 --> 00:52:33.014 I see a big Moreton Bay fig but it might be some 00:52:33.014 --> 00:52:35.019 other native plant. 00:52:42.023 --> 00:52:47.003 It might be something different, I want to know what the community want. 00:52:47.003 --> 00:52:51.010 I also see this pocket park is just the beginning. 00:52:51.010 --> 00:52:54.006 I hope it can be followed by other little 00:52:54.006 --> 00:52:56.024 and not so little spaces in Middle Brighton and 00:52:56.024 --> 00:53:01.017 beyond where we can plant trees and people can sit under the shade 00:53:01.017 --> 00:53:03.019 of those trees and gather. 00:53:03.019 --> 00:53:06.013 So I'm looking forward to seeing it happen. 00:53:06.013 --> 00:53:09.012 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Samuel-King. 00:53:09.012 --> 00:53:11.002 Councillor Castelli. 00:53:11.002 --> 00:53:12.013 CR CASTELLI: Thank you, Mr Mayor. 00:53:12.013 --> 00:53:17.002 Yes, following onto that, that was a wonderful speech there, 00:53:17.002 --> 00:53:18.012 beautiful. 00:53:18.012 --> 00:53:22.018 I remember this coming onto the table and I was one of the ones who was 00:53:22.018 --> 00:53:27.008 against the car park, if you recall, Mr Mayor. 00:53:27.008 --> 00:53:30.003 And I remain consistent with this. 00:53:30.003 --> 00:53:33.006 I'm happy with that motion, absolutely. 00:53:33.006 --> 00:53:35.003 It is a small block. 00:53:35.003 --> 00:53:36.016 How many cars? 00:53:36.016 --> 00:53:40.002 I don't know, 10, 15 maybe, I don't know how many cars would 00:53:40.002 --> 00:53:41.014 fit in there. 00:53:41.014 --> 00:53:43.019 But I do agree with this. 00:53:43.019 --> 00:53:47.022 I think we need some open space in that MAC, in that area. 00:53:47.022 --> 00:53:53.004 I understand we have a little bit of a lack of car parks 00:53:53.004 --> 00:54:00.018 but we've also got a car park underneath Coles where it needs 00:54:00.018 --> 00:54:03.014 to be filled up and sometimes it probably is 00:54:03.014 --> 00:54:06.017 but we've got photos of it being empty. 00:54:06.017 --> 00:54:09.020 So I understand that as well. 00:54:09.020 --> 00:54:13.009 But we've also got overwhelming, a lot of submissions 00:54:13.009 --> 00:54:19.012 by people that would love to see it as a little park around that area. 00:54:19.012 --> 00:54:23.014 We've got developments happening there, there's no harm to that. 00:54:23.014 --> 00:54:29.002 I know, as we understand there is a need for parking 00:54:29.002 --> 00:54:31.017 but I don't think that's an appropriate place. 00:54:31.017 --> 00:54:34.021 I think we can do - there's other areas we could actually 00:54:34.021 --> 00:54:38.019 put a car park if we need to and that would be somewhere 00:54:38.019 --> 00:54:40.021 and we'll work that one out. 00:54:40.021 --> 00:54:47.014 But as indicated, submissions talk very loud. 00:54:47.014 --> 00:54:51.018 I also think going to consultation is a great idea. 00:54:51.018 --> 00:54:55.004 I will let the public out there speak - take that on 00:54:55.004 --> 00:54:57.009 and let us know what they want. 00:54:57.009 --> 00:54:58.021 Thank you, Mr Mayor. 00:54:58.021 --> 00:55:01.007 CR EVANS: Thank you very much, Councillor Castelli. 00:55:01.007 --> 00:55:03.019 Any other councillors? 00:55:03.019 --> 00:55:05.006 Councillor Martin. 00:55:05.006 --> 00:55:08.021 CR MARTIN: Yeah, look, I support this. 00:55:08.021 --> 00:55:15.013 This is a motion that enables us to continue to develop our knowledge 00:55:15.013 --> 00:55:21.005 and understanding of how the Church Street major activity centre 00:55:21.005 --> 00:55:28.002 is developing into and how it can drive forward in a, 00:55:28.002 --> 00:55:34.017 well, excuse the pun, but to make it one of the most liveable 00:55:34.017 --> 00:55:39.002 and enjoyable major activity centres in Victoria. 00:55:39.002 --> 00:55:42.007 Now, to do that, you need strategic planning 00:55:42.007 --> 00:55:44.013 like you've never had it before. 00:55:44.013 --> 00:55:47.019 The idea that you just make decisions of, look, 00:55:47.019 --> 00:55:51.008 let's pop a pocket park here and change something there 00:55:51.008 --> 00:55:55.024 and change a car park there without doing this heavy-duty work, 00:55:55.024 --> 00:55:58.023 is one of the quickest ways to actually 00:55:58.023 --> 00:56:01.008 have unintended consequences. 00:56:01.008 --> 00:56:06.006 Consequences that can be very profound and I am not a councillor that would be 00:56:06.006 --> 00:56:11.012 jeopardising millions of dollars, millions of ratepayers' dollars. 00:56:11.012 --> 00:56:13.003 They acquired this land. 00:56:13.003 --> 00:56:17.003 Ratepayers purchased the land for a car park and 00:56:17.003 --> 00:56:22.017 to just give millions of dollars away without doing the proper work, 00:56:22.017 --> 00:56:26.012 I think we could all be accused of being very, very rash. 00:56:26.012 --> 00:56:29.003 Now, everyone wants more trees. 00:56:29.003 --> 00:56:35.002 You speak to any ratepayer, any resident, they would give anything 00:56:35.002 --> 00:56:37.002 for more land and more trees. 00:56:37.002 --> 00:56:40.023 And I can assure you there are council-owned car parks 00:56:40.023 --> 00:56:45.024 all over Bayside, all over them and if council wants 00:56:45.024 --> 00:56:49.019 to start giving away land and just creating parks, based 00:56:49.019 --> 00:56:53.023 on the immediate residents, the residents that are within metres 00:56:53.023 --> 00:56:57.002 of this space, you are setting precedents 00:56:57.002 --> 00:57:00.013 that are uncontrollable, like a fire. 00:57:00.013 --> 00:57:03.021 You have to be very, very careful with this. 00:57:03.021 --> 00:57:08.009 It may be that the justification is for more open space but it may not be 00:57:08.009 --> 00:57:10.021 at 7 Well Street, it may be somewhere else. 00:57:10.021 --> 00:57:15.013 It may be able to acquire some shops to connect other parks 00:57:15.013 --> 00:57:17.011 to make sure people can get to and from, 00:57:17.011 --> 00:57:21.017 to do the very things which we want them to do which is to walk and cycle. 00:57:21.017 --> 00:57:25.016 There may be better ways to use that money. 00:57:25.016 --> 00:57:31.018 I think that the key to this is that residents absolutely are crying 00:57:31.018 --> 00:57:34.006 out for direction on this and that is why we took it 00:57:34.006 --> 00:57:35.019 to a ministerial panel. 00:57:35.019 --> 00:57:38.014 We got very good advice back from that panel and that 00:57:38.014 --> 00:57:42.023 is exactly what we're proposing to do and I think this way of doing it 00:57:42.023 --> 00:57:44.011 is another good way of doing it. 00:57:44.011 --> 00:57:47.002 Going out to the community and literally hearing what 00:57:47.002 --> 00:57:48.024 they may say. 00:57:48.024 --> 00:57:51.017 But you may find that many, many people may get in touch 00:57:51.017 --> 00:57:54.006 with us saying we would desperately like to be able 00:57:54.006 --> 00:57:57.002 to park our cars more easily at Church Street. 00:57:57.002 --> 00:58:00.012 So, you know, when the community speaks they may speak 00:58:00.012 --> 00:58:05.013 in ways we may not expect but I'm hoping that the changes 00:58:05.013 --> 00:58:08.017 to the car parking that we've made in Bayside, 00:58:08.017 --> 00:58:11.004 the way finding system that we've put in, which 00:58:11.004 --> 00:58:14.023 is collecting data every hour, how many cars come in, 00:58:14.023 --> 00:58:18.015 how many cars go out, how many spaces are available, 00:58:18.015 --> 00:58:23.002 what's the change in behaviour of people seeing that 16 car parks 00:58:23.002 --> 00:58:26.017 available in Black Street instead of circulating around and 00:58:26.017 --> 00:58:29.003 around Church Street to get that one just as close 00:58:29.003 --> 00:58:31.015 as you can to that cafe you want to go to. 00:58:31.015 --> 00:58:33.021 It may be changing the behaviour, I don't know. 00:58:33.021 --> 00:58:36.009 But that's all coming towards us and that's 00:58:36.009 --> 00:58:38.015 all called the strategic justification. 00:58:38.015 --> 00:58:42.012 I think that's one of the big things of the reasons why we spent a 00:58:42.012 --> 00:58:45.003 few hundred thousand dollars putting that system in. 00:58:45.003 --> 00:58:48.015 So I would hate to think that we just discard all 00:58:48.015 --> 00:58:52.005 of that great scientific data and just rationally go ahead 00:58:52.005 --> 00:58:56.011 and change something that we haven't formally understood. 00:58:56.011 --> 00:59:01.007 So this motion provides us with going into the community early, but also 00:59:01.007 --> 00:59:03.022 to continue the strategic justification. 00:59:03.022 --> 00:59:05.010 So I support the motions. 00:59:05.010 --> 00:59:07.015 CR EVANS: Thanks very much, Councillor Martin. 00:59:07.015 --> 00:59:09.003 Councillor Stitfold. 00:59:09.003 --> 00:59:12.004 CR STITFOLD: I think this motion provides the opportunity for us 00:59:12.004 --> 00:59:15.004 to think in another way and that means taking 00:59:15.004 --> 00:59:19.010 into consideration our climate change emergency declaration, looking 00:59:19.010 --> 00:59:22.017 at the impact of heat sinks with the increased development 00:59:22.017 --> 00:59:24.010 around the area. 00:59:24.010 --> 00:59:27.024 So I just think it's, as Councillor Martin was saying, 00:59:27.024 --> 00:59:32.022 it does provide a great opportunity for us to think more broadly and 00:59:32.022 --> 00:59:34.021 in an integrated way. 00:59:34.021 --> 00:59:38.005 CR EVANS: Thank you. 00:59:38.005 --> 00:59:40.020 Before you close, Councillor Samuel-King, yes, 00:59:40.020 --> 00:59:44.019 I agree with you, Councillor Stitfold, that that was part of the parcel 00:59:44.019 --> 00:59:49.014 of my agreement with this particular motion 00:59:49.014 --> 00:59:53.014 is we are going out to our community to listen to our community. 00:59:53.014 --> 00:59:55.017 That is what we should be doing. 00:59:55.017 --> 00:59:59.019 That is the courteous thing to do before going onto 00:59:59.019 --> 01:00:03.008 to doing anything that's shifting from something that we've been doing 01:00:03.008 --> 01:00:04.020 for a long, long time. 01:00:04.020 --> 01:00:06.020 Something that we've been doing for a long, 01:00:06.020 --> 01:00:08.011 long time may not be the right thing. 01:00:08.011 --> 01:00:14.007 But, we go out to our community and ask them about it and this, 01:00:14.007 --> 01:00:18.000 actually, the first part of it is completes a study 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:21.012 on the opportunities and constraints so that we get 01:00:21.012 --> 01:00:25.010 everything about what we may or may not - 01:00:25.010 --> 01:00:30.019 we may want to make a pocket park, we may not, Vu to keep an open mind. 01:00:30.019 --> 01:00:37.021 However, this gives us justification of the things that this council wants 01:00:37.021 --> 01:00:42.000 to do which is declare a climate emergency, 01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:46.012 it has an action plan about it and it has to do something about it 01:00:46.012 --> 01:00:51.023 and this is a way of showing to people that we are trying our best 01:00:51.023 --> 01:00:56.003 to live up to those plans that we said that we would. 01:00:56.003 --> 01:00:58.019 Now, it doesn't actually mean we're going to do it. 01:00:58.019 --> 01:01:02.005 It means we're asking for a study that gives us 01:01:02.005 --> 01:01:06.015 the constraints and the opportunities which I think that's what we want 01:01:06.015 --> 01:01:08.003 to hear from our community. 01:01:08.003 --> 01:01:09.015 So I support it. 01:01:09.015 --> 01:01:11.003 Thank you. 01:01:11.003 --> 01:01:12.015 Councillor Samuel-King. 01:01:12.015 --> 01:01:15.014 CR SAMUEL-KING: Just in closing, do you have those photographs 01:01:15.014 --> 01:01:20.012 and I thank resident John Kardis for supplying them. 01:01:20.012 --> 01:01:24.002 So we're wanting to listen to the community and I want to speak 01:01:24.002 --> 01:01:28.022 to the residents about - and traders - about what that may mean. 01:01:28.022 --> 01:01:34.005 This is an underground car park underneath the Dendy Village. 01:01:34.005 --> 01:01:37.016 I often find it looks like this. 01:01:37.016 --> 01:01:42.016 I don't know that a lot of shoppers know that it's even there. 01:01:42.016 --> 01:01:46.007 So there are hundreds and hundreds of car parks, if you're ever 01:01:46.007 --> 01:01:50.007 at Church Street, please do use it. 01:01:50.007 --> 01:01:55.008 It's very empty and it's a lovely spot to park your car. 01:01:55.008 --> 01:01:58.022 So that's one thing for the residents and traders to consider. 01:01:58.022 --> 01:02:02.015 The other is this absolutely fantastic document 01:02:02.015 --> 01:02:05.023 that I want to recommend to everyone to read. 01:02:05.023 --> 01:02:12.006 It's the panel report, Bayside planning scheme amendment C165 01:02:12.006 --> 01:02:14.003 Well Street car park. 01:02:14.003 --> 01:02:19.023 The panel considered whether they would accept Bayside's submission 01:02:19.023 --> 01:02:25.009 to have 7 Well Street become - to be changed from residential 01:02:25.009 --> 01:02:29.011 to parking and the answer was a very firm no. 01:02:29.011 --> 01:02:33.011 And they go through the many and varied reasons why 01:02:33.011 --> 01:02:35.014 that panel said no. 01:02:35.014 --> 01:02:39.015 And there are very solid reasons here. 01:02:39.015 --> 01:02:43.002 The essence of it is it was not supported 01:02:43.002 --> 01:02:48.013 by any single policy or strategy that anyone could possibly 01:02:48.013 --> 01:02:50.002 come up with. 01:02:50.002 --> 01:02:51.013 It just did not make sense. 01:02:51.013 --> 01:02:53.017 So if you just have a look at it. 01:02:55.018 --> 01:03:01.016 There were many, many policies, I don't think the 2050 01:03:01.016 --> 01:03:03.006 vision was there. 01:03:03.006 --> 01:03:08.002 There was the Bayside bicycle strategy, it wasn't consistent with that, 01:03:08.002 --> 01:03:11.006 the Bayside housing strategy wasn't consistent with that. 01:03:11.006 --> 01:03:15.002 The Church Street activity centre car parking background report, 01:03:15.002 --> 01:03:17.007 this wasn't consistent with that. 01:03:17.007 --> 01:03:21.009 The Bayside community plan, it wasn't consistent with that. 01:03:21.009 --> 01:03:28.020 So their summary was that the intended use of the subject land is inconsistent 01:03:28.020 --> 01:03:32.016 with the structure plan policies on how parking 01:03:32.016 --> 01:03:37.011 will be addressed in the Church Street MAC in the planning scheme. 01:03:37.011 --> 01:03:41.007 The broader policies on parking do not support the ad hoc 01:03:41.007 --> 01:03:45.021 creation of more or larger car parks. 01:03:45.021 --> 01:03:52.004 So the State policy aspirations are not met by an expansion of an at-grade 01:03:52.004 --> 01:03:55.002 car park onto activity centre land. 01:03:55.002 --> 01:03:58.016 So please consider that and also to the traders, 01:03:58.016 --> 01:04:01.006 I think you may actually enjoy this spot to have lunch. 01:04:01.006 --> 01:04:04.008 CR EVANS: Thank you, your time has expired. 01:04:04.008 --> 01:04:06.012 All those in favour? 01:04:06.012 --> 01:04:08.002 Against? 01:04:08.002 --> 01:04:09.017 Carried. 01:04:09.017 --> 01:04:13.009 Can we ask Councillor del Porto to return, please. 01:04:29.017 --> 01:04:31.008 Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 01:04:31.008 --> 01:04:36.005 10.4, disability access and inclusion committee, appointment 01:04:36.005 --> 01:04:37.018 of community members. 01:04:37.018 --> 01:04:39.023 There were no written statements received. 01:04:39.023 --> 01:04:43.012 Moved Councillor Martin, seconded Councillor del Porto. 01:04:43.012 --> 01:04:44.024 Councillor Martin. 01:04:44.024 --> 01:04:46.020 CR MARTIN: Thanks very much, Mr Mayor. 01:04:46.020 --> 01:04:50.003 This is a great outcome for the community. 01:04:50.003 --> 01:04:52.014 The people that have been recommended to come 01:04:52.014 --> 01:04:58.010 onto the newly proposed disability access and inclusion committee are some 01:04:58.010 --> 01:05:03.002 of the finest advocates, lived experience community members 01:05:03.002 --> 01:05:04.021 in Bayside in this space. 01:05:04.021 --> 01:05:07.022 And I'm really looking forward to working with 01:05:07.022 --> 01:05:10.017 and Councillor El Mouallem is as well. 01:05:10.017 --> 01:05:15.024 The background is completing some civil works 01:05:15.024 --> 01:05:21.002 in Bayside to find that even though they were 100% compliant 01:05:21.002 --> 01:05:24.015 they still produced physical barriers to chairs getting into shops 01:05:24.015 --> 01:05:27.005 and things like that, which unfortunately, even today, 01:05:27.005 --> 01:05:30.002 at the concourse I noticed there are still steps in some 01:05:30.002 --> 01:05:31.012 of the shops. 01:05:31.012 --> 01:05:33.024 There's been some remedial works to get the ramps in. 01:05:33.024 --> 01:05:38.009 But it's not just the physical stuff, which is incredibly important, 01:05:38.009 --> 01:05:42.012 but it's also the inclusionary stuff, to make sure that everyone feels 01:05:42.012 --> 01:05:47.002 included through these processes and making sure that we've got those 01:05:47.002 --> 01:05:51.009 voices being loud and clear to us on what that actually means. 01:05:51.009 --> 01:05:52.022 And if you're not living your 01:05:52.022 --> 01:05:57.008 life with disability, you know, with friends, family, or yourself, 01:05:57.008 --> 01:06:02.002 sometimes you cannot fully appreciate what is required to live this life 01:06:02.002 --> 01:06:05.014 in Bayside with those kind of challenges. 01:06:05.014 --> 01:06:09.015 So I'm really pleased that we have increased that inclusion 01:06:09.015 --> 01:06:16.016 and we've now established a precedent in establishing these new types 01:06:16.016 --> 01:06:20.020 of consultative arrangements under the new Local Government law. 01:06:20.020 --> 01:06:25.007 The new Local Government law really did go out of their way 01:06:25.007 --> 01:06:29.018 to make sure that councils do this type of stuff and 01:06:29.018 --> 01:06:34.016 not only are we just doing it, we're doing it really quickly. 01:06:34.016 --> 01:06:36.013 You know, the law only came out recently, 01:06:36.013 --> 01:06:39.011 we've only had the election and we've got one up and coming. 01:06:39.011 --> 01:06:43.014 I hope to see a few more of these during the council term. 01:06:43.014 --> 01:06:47.011 We've had the Arts Board for a while and I think that's been going brilliant 01:06:47.011 --> 01:06:51.006 and shown us what you can achieve by councillors 01:06:51.006 --> 01:06:53.013 and board members coming together. 01:06:53.013 --> 01:06:58.011 So I'm really pleased with this first board 01:06:58.011 --> 01:07:00.022 and I'm really looking forward to working with them. 01:07:00.022 --> 01:07:03.006 CR EVANS: Thank you very much, Councillor Martin. 01:07:03.006 --> 01:07:04.018 Councillor del Porto. 01:07:04.018 --> 01:07:06.017 CR DEL PORTO: Thank you very much for that. 01:07:06.017 --> 01:07:09.014 It's an issue that really, from my point of view, 01:07:09.014 --> 01:07:12.018 was really raised in a big way during the election campaign 01:07:12.018 --> 01:07:16.003 and really resonated with me and I'm sure with other candidates 01:07:16.003 --> 01:07:18.016 and future councillors as well. 01:07:18.016 --> 01:07:22.017 It's something that first of all I want to say something about the quality 01:07:22.017 --> 01:07:24.005 of the membership. 01:07:24.005 --> 01:07:27.017 It looks to me like we're going to appoint eight community members 01:07:27.017 --> 01:07:30.022 but the high calibre of the applicants has ensured that 01:07:30.022 --> 01:07:34.002 we actually ended up appointed ten. 01:07:34.002 --> 01:07:35.021 And, you know, the criteria's there. 01:07:35.021 --> 01:07:37.024 They have lived experience of disability, 01:07:37.024 --> 01:07:42.003 either somebody with disability, a carer or a person involved 01:07:42.003 --> 01:07:44.020 in the disability and there's other criteria. 01:07:44.020 --> 01:07:48.018 I was going to say, it's - some of the things that can be done can 01:07:48.018 --> 01:07:50.014 be done quite easily. 01:07:50.014 --> 01:07:57.011 I went to Caulfield Park today with my grandchildren. 01:07:57.011 --> 01:08:00.009 They've got this huge geese, and I think I might have mentioned 01:08:00.009 --> 01:08:03.009 to you already, they've got a playground and one 01:08:03.009 --> 01:08:06.007 of the swings is for people with disability. 01:08:06.007 --> 01:08:10.010 It's just basically a wider swing with a couple of extra belts in it. 01:08:10.010 --> 01:08:17.017 So it's not that hard to really even retrofit existing 01:08:17.017 --> 01:08:21.010 playgrounds we have by having an extra swing there 01:08:21.010 --> 01:08:23.013 for people with disability. 01:08:23.013 --> 01:08:26.002 It's really, I think, something to think about. 01:08:26.002 --> 01:08:28.011 Of course, the other point Councillor Martin made 01:08:28.011 --> 01:08:29.023 is absolutely correct. 01:08:29.023 --> 01:08:33.009 I got a bit of a shock last year when we finally finished up Hawthorn Road, 01:08:33.009 --> 01:08:39.024 the little SNAC there, and I found out some of the shops, 01:08:39.024 --> 01:08:43.020 it wasn't the fault of the shops but the footpath was compliant 01:08:43.020 --> 01:08:46.015 but it would not allow somebody with a wheelchair 01:08:46.015 --> 01:08:48.014 to actually access those shops. 01:08:48.014 --> 01:08:52.023 And the same thing happening in every other activity centre. 01:08:52.023 --> 01:08:57.004 I can think of a couple of chemists, big chemist shops 01:08:57.004 --> 01:09:00.021 in Bay Street that have huge steps, big steps. 01:09:00.021 --> 01:09:04.015 I mean there's no way anybody's going to be able to access them 01:09:04.015 --> 01:09:06.002 with a wheelchair. 01:09:06.002 --> 01:09:09.002 So we've got work to do and I think that this committee 01:09:09.002 --> 01:09:11.013 will highlight the things that we have to do. 01:09:11.013 --> 01:09:13.010 So I'm very much looking forward to it. 01:09:13.010 --> 01:09:15.011 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 01:09:15.011 --> 01:09:17.021 Any other councillors? 01:09:17.021 --> 01:09:21.024 Before you close, Councillor Martin, I just want to say first of 01:09:21.024 --> 01:09:25.008 all thank you, Councillor Martin, because this came from a notice 01:09:25.008 --> 01:09:29.009 of motion from you last time and I think it was spurred 01:09:29.009 --> 01:09:35.015 by general talk with you and Mr Naylor at one particular time. 01:09:35.015 --> 01:09:38.002 And I congratulate you on that and the council 01:09:38.002 --> 01:09:41.021 for accepting it and also, as Councillor del Porto has said, 01:09:41.021 --> 01:09:46.002 the high calibre of the members of it and also 01:09:46.002 --> 01:09:50.020 as Councillor del Porto has said, we are here to listen and learn 01:09:50.020 --> 01:09:54.002 from this committee. 01:09:54.002 --> 01:09:58.012 The whole point of this is to bring things to our attention that 01:09:58.012 --> 01:10:02.022 we don't know about and highlight them to us so that we can 01:10:02.022 --> 01:10:04.020 have continuous improvement. 01:10:06.022 --> 01:10:09.015 Now, everybody thinks that we're doing the right thing 01:10:09.015 --> 01:10:14.013 but I'm sure this committee will come up with all sorts of things where 01:10:14.013 --> 01:10:18.006 they can help us and guide us to do things better. 01:10:18.006 --> 01:10:22.020 So and also just taking you up on your point, Councillor Martin, 01:10:22.020 --> 01:10:26.022 about it's not just access, it is inclusion as well. 01:10:26.022 --> 01:10:31.022 That is the main point about inclusion. 01:10:31.022 --> 01:10:36.012 Access is just a physical thing to be able to get through things, 01:10:36.012 --> 01:10:39.023 which we should be doing anyway, but inclusion is a state 01:10:39.023 --> 01:10:46.000 of mind that people have to come to grips with to really take 01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:50.018 on what I think this advisory committee will say to our council. 01:10:50.018 --> 01:10:52.005 So thank you to that. 01:10:52.005 --> 01:10:54.003 Councillor Martin, do you wish to close? 01:10:54.003 --> 01:10:56.002 CR MARTIN: Yep. 01:10:58.006 --> 01:11:04.011 The board will meet very soon and I can promise all the councillors 01:11:04.011 --> 01:11:07.019 that the reports coming back to council be transparent, 01:11:07.019 --> 01:11:11.007 they will be effective and if we need something we'll be asking. 01:11:11.007 --> 01:11:13.018 CR EVANS: All those in favour? 01:11:13.018 --> 01:11:15.005 Against? 01:11:15.005 --> 01:11:17.009 Carried. 01:11:17.009 --> 01:11:20.020 10.5, response to a submission from Mrs Caroline Lawton on behalf 01:11:20.020 --> 01:11:24.015 of the Beaumaris Conservation Society regarding the 2020-21 01:11:24.015 --> 01:11:26.003 first quarter 01:11:26.003 --> 01:11:27.021 performance report July-September. 01:11:27.021 --> 01:11:29.018 There are no written statements. 01:11:29.018 --> 01:11:31.005 Councillor Martin. 01:11:31.005 --> 01:11:33.006 CR MARTIN: I would like to move. 01:11:33.006 --> 01:11:35.007 CR EVANS: Seconded Councillor del Porto. 01:11:35.007 --> 01:11:36.020 Councillor Martin. 01:11:36.020 --> 01:11:39.012 CR MARTIN: This came back from a response 01:11:39.012 --> 01:11:44.009 on the council's first quarter performance of 2021 01:11:44.009 --> 01:11:47.016 of this financial year and the Beaumaris Conservation Society 01:11:47.016 --> 01:11:50.020 gave us a wake-up call saying even though we're giving 01:11:50.020 --> 01:11:53.007 ourselves big green tick on every performance 01:11:53.007 --> 01:11:56.024 indicator we've got, they felt that there were big things 01:11:56.024 --> 01:12:00.018 that weren't being ticked and, you know, one of those, of course, 01:12:00.018 --> 01:12:05.020 was the progress of the urban forest strategy, which we 01:12:05.020 --> 01:12:10.005 all know and it's coming, it's coming, it will be done in the first half 01:12:10.005 --> 01:12:12.023 of this year, as I understand it. 01:12:12.023 --> 01:12:16.007 But really, their points were that in Beaumaris 01:12:16.007 --> 01:12:21.009 under the vegetation protection overlay, the VPO, 01:12:21.009 --> 01:12:25.007 there is literally chainsaws operating every day in Beaumaris. 01:12:25.007 --> 01:12:29.023 And they find that it's very difficult to identify 01:12:29.023 --> 01:12:34.010 whether those chainsaws have a permit or whether they haven't got a permit. 01:12:34.010 --> 01:12:39.012 Now, the report, the response to their very substantial submission 01:12:39.012 --> 01:12:44.007 to our performance report regarding that matter was can't you - 01:12:44.007 --> 01:12:48.013 someone who has got a permit to cut down a tree or lop a tree, 01:12:48.013 --> 01:12:53.004 can't you post that permit up about seven days before they go 01:12:53.004 --> 01:12:54.016 to do the work. 01:12:54.016 --> 01:12:57.011 Well, the council officers have said, well, look, you know, 01:12:57.011 --> 01:13:00.002 there's an amenity issue with signs going everywhere, 01:13:00.002 --> 01:13:01.016 it's very difficult to police. 01:13:01.016 --> 01:13:05.014 A better way is to make the permits more accessible 01:13:05.014 --> 01:13:07.002 via our website. 01:13:07.002 --> 01:13:10.017 The website now is much more friendly to a phone and theoretically should be 01:13:10.017 --> 01:13:14.015 able to pump in the address with the chainsaws are operating 01:13:14.015 --> 01:13:18.011 and very quickly get to whether it got a permit or not and then 01:13:18.011 --> 01:13:22.024 they can call in the compliance officers if they need to. 01:13:22.024 --> 01:13:27.003 I think that that's something that is in the report that they are trying 01:13:27.003 --> 01:13:30.002 to make that the preferred way of doing it. 01:13:30.002 --> 01:13:32.014 And I think that it's probably a good thing to do 01:13:32.014 --> 01:13:35.005 because people are going online. 01:13:35.005 --> 01:13:38.022 But they're also talking about the follow-up 01:13:38.022 --> 01:13:41.007 to the audit that we did two or three years ago. 01:13:41.007 --> 01:13:44.007 So we sit here in Planning and Amenity, big trees, 01:13:44.007 --> 01:13:50.009 big canopy trees are often approved by VCAT, not by us, but taken 01:13:50.009 --> 01:13:53.018 down under the condition of the planning permit 01:13:53.018 --> 01:13:57.015 to replace that tree with two to three canopy trees. 01:13:57.015 --> 01:14:00.015 Now, two or three years ago I and others were saying well, 01:14:00.015 --> 01:14:02.015 what's happening with those canopy trees? 01:14:02.015 --> 01:14:07.002 So they went back five years, audited 74 and 69 01:14:07.002 --> 01:14:09.024 of those developments didn't have canopy trees. 01:14:09.024 --> 01:14:14.002 They had rose bushes and all sorts of other things but not canopy trees. 01:14:14.002 --> 01:14:15.013 And that was a wake-up call. 01:14:15.013 --> 01:14:19.002 That was the massive, biggest wake-up call I can recall. 01:14:19.002 --> 01:14:22.020 And in this report, the Beaumaris Conservation Society are 01:14:22.020 --> 01:14:25.012 still talking about that and the good news 01:14:25.012 --> 01:14:30.013 is that we did an audit of 80 properties in 2020 01:14:30.013 --> 01:14:33.018 and 21 properties in the first two months 01:14:33.018 --> 01:14:37.010 of 2021 and so that must have been January, February. 01:14:37.010 --> 01:14:42.017 And there has been approximately 50 to 60% compliance measured. 01:14:42.017 --> 01:14:44.005 Now, that's good. 01:14:44.005 --> 01:14:47.024 But that's 40 to 50% noncompliance. 01:14:47.024 --> 01:14:50.013 So we've still got a long way - we've made improvement, 01:14:50.013 --> 01:14:53.012 there's no doubt about that, and we are finding our 01:14:53.012 --> 01:14:55.002 way through this. 01:14:55.002 --> 01:14:58.016 We're actually bringing a fair bit of compliance onto this 01:14:58.016 --> 01:15:01.011 and I really thank the officers for their work on this. 01:15:01.011 --> 01:15:07.004 So the Beaumaris Conservation Society have been around 61 years, you can read 01:15:07.004 --> 01:15:08.017 through all of this stuff. 01:15:08.017 --> 01:15:11.013 They're not going anywhere and they're holding us to account 01:15:11.013 --> 01:15:14.007 and I think the urban forest strategy will really assist 01:15:14.007 --> 01:15:15.020 with these other matters. 01:15:15.020 --> 01:15:17.016 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Martin. 01:15:17.016 --> 01:15:19.004 Your time has expired. 01:15:19.004 --> 01:15:20.016 Councillor del Porto. 01:15:20.016 --> 01:15:23.008 CR DEL PORTO: Look, I support it. 01:15:23.008 --> 01:15:27.017 The thought crossed my mind, and I think that's right, I mean 01:15:27.017 --> 01:15:31.021 if people have a condition that would have to have ten canopy trees 01:15:31.021 --> 01:15:34.013 and then five years later half of them are gone, 01:15:34.013 --> 01:15:36.002 there's something wrong there. 01:15:36.002 --> 01:15:38.011 But I just wonder whether there's another question 01:15:38.011 --> 01:15:43.013 to ask: Can we look at other type of vegetation, 01:15:43.013 --> 01:15:46.021 clearly some of these people don't want to retain the full canopy, 01:15:46.021 --> 01:15:50.023 but maybe we should look at some more native vegetation that 01:15:50.023 --> 01:15:54.021 is actually low shrub which might not be the full canopy tree, 01:15:54.021 --> 01:15:59.005 which might not be suitable for a townhouse-type 01:15:59.005 --> 01:16:01.018 development. 01:16:01.018 --> 01:16:05.002 You could have the police side of it and say 20% to 30% are not compliant, 01:16:05.002 --> 01:16:06.013 we're going to hit them hard. 01:16:08.013 --> 01:16:11.012 Or say maybe they're trying to say that, you know, 01:16:11.012 --> 01:16:15.005 there may be other vegetation that might be more acceptable 01:16:15.005 --> 01:16:16.018 to them in the long run. 01:16:16.018 --> 01:16:20.019 So I just wanted to say that I, like every other councillor here, 01:16:20.019 --> 01:16:25.005 just about attended the environmental meeting on Sunday morning 01:16:25.005 --> 01:16:34.007 and the very first speaker raised the issue about urban forest strategy 01:16:34.007 --> 01:16:37.020 and I think he was talking about the city of Melbourne. 01:16:37.020 --> 01:16:41.008 And that they have one already. 01:16:41.008 --> 01:16:45.017 So may I ask council officers to keep that in mind and 01:16:45.017 --> 01:16:48.016 if there's any way we don't have to reinvent the wheel and see 01:16:48.016 --> 01:16:50.011 whether something can - it might not be 01:16:50.011 --> 01:16:53.015 that completely relevant, I understand they're different cities, 01:16:53.015 --> 01:16:56.016 but nevertheless, there may be some existing council 01:16:56.016 --> 01:17:04.023 that already have something that we could borrow so that that 01:17:04.023 --> 01:17:06.016 will save us some time as well. 01:17:06.016 --> 01:17:11.012 So by all means, let's increase the tree canopy, 01:17:11.012 --> 01:17:15.007 particularly with our own properties, you know, our own reserves. 01:17:15.007 --> 01:17:20.023 I mean there's plenty of scope to grow more trees 01:17:20.023 --> 01:17:23.013 in our own reserves and parks. 01:17:23.013 --> 01:17:27.015 There's plenty of ovals and even something close to me, 01:17:27.015 --> 01:17:29.019 you know, I can't talk, it's an amenity issue, 01:17:29.019 --> 01:17:33.016 but there are lots and lots of areas you could actually grow more 01:17:33.016 --> 01:17:36.017 trees that we can control. 01:17:36.017 --> 01:17:38.024 But, yeah, it was a very interesting 01:17:38.024 --> 01:17:40.011 day that morning. 01:17:40.011 --> 01:17:42.002 There was a lot of good points made. 01:17:42.002 --> 01:17:44.010 I won't go into some of the others about insurance, 01:17:44.010 --> 01:17:46.002 I thought was a good point as well. 01:17:46.002 --> 01:17:50.003 But, you know, I think that this is, you know, there were good questions 01:17:50.003 --> 01:17:52.018 and I think they will be addressed later on. 01:17:52.018 --> 01:17:54.018 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 01:17:54.018 --> 01:17:56.006 Councillor Samuel-King. 01:17:56.006 --> 01:17:59.017 CR SAMUEL-KING: One of the lovely things about being 01:17:59.017 --> 01:18:04.013 in this council is that we're together on this, 01:18:04.013 --> 01:18:08.017 all seven councillors and council officers are wanting 01:18:08.017 --> 01:18:13.002 to do what we can to save the tree canopy that we've got. 01:18:13.002 --> 01:18:16.023 But it's a problem we don't actually know how. 01:18:16.023 --> 01:18:21.013 And I was really interested in hearing David Rothfield speak 01:18:21.013 --> 01:18:26.004 from the Bayside Crisis Climate Group, I think he's got some good ideas. 01:18:26.004 --> 01:18:31.002 I would like to sit down with him and the councillors 01:18:31.002 --> 01:18:36.002 and any other group, the Beaumaris Conservation 01:18:36.002 --> 01:18:40.012 Society as well, to hear how from a legal, 01:18:40.012 --> 01:18:47.020 or any way that any ideas of how we can protect our beautiful trees. 01:18:50.006 --> 01:18:54.012 With the urban forest strategy, I'd be really interested in seeing 01:18:54.012 --> 01:18:58.006 if we could sit down with the relevant friends of groups 01:18:58.006 --> 01:19:03.018 and local experts that we've got, the Beaumaris Conservation Society, 01:19:03.018 --> 01:19:08.010 the Friends of Native Wildlife, Gio Fitzpatrick has an amazing 01:19:08.010 --> 01:19:11.002 amount of knowledge, he's an award-winning naturalist, 01:19:13.012 --> 01:19:17.005 before it's set in concrete so that these policies 01:19:17.005 --> 01:19:23.008 and strategies can be developed with that local expertise so that 01:19:23.008 --> 01:19:29.022 we can actually lead the way in protecting the trees we've got 01:19:29.022 --> 01:19:34.011 and planting more and more, not just trees but as Alex said, 01:19:34.011 --> 01:19:39.007 vegetation that will provide little bits of habitat 01:19:39.007 --> 01:19:40.020 for our native wildlife. 01:19:40.020 --> 01:19:44.022 I think Gio Fitzpatrick's idea is could we double the amount 01:19:44.022 --> 01:19:48.004 of Indigenous vegetation within Bayside. 01:19:48.004 --> 01:19:49.017 I don't know. 01:19:49.017 --> 01:19:51.004 Can we? 01:19:51.004 --> 01:19:53.017 It would need to get the private landholders onboard. 01:19:53.017 --> 01:19:55.006 We'd need to look at nature strips. 01:19:55.006 --> 01:19:57.011 We'd need to look at all kinds of opportunities 01:19:57.011 --> 01:19:59.007 but it's not impossible. 01:19:59.007 --> 01:20:01.016 CR EVANS: I'll take that as a rhetorical question. 01:20:01.016 --> 01:20:03.003 Thank you. 01:20:03.003 --> 01:20:05.008 CR SAMUEL-KING : It was a rhetorical question. 01:20:05.008 --> 01:20:07.013 CR EVANS: Any other councillors? 01:20:07.013 --> 01:20:09.000 I have nothing. 01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:10.023 Councillor Martin, do you wish to close? 01:20:10.023 --> 01:20:13.007 CR MARTIN: Yeah, look, I agree with Councillor del 01:20:13.007 --> 01:20:17.022 Porto and Councillor Samuel-King regarding looking 01:20:17.022 --> 01:20:23.002 at this more wholistically around the canopy trees. 01:20:23.002 --> 01:20:26.022 But it's got to be done in a much more scientific 01:20:26.022 --> 01:20:32.005 approach and I noticed in the report, the Beaumaris Conservation Society were 01:20:32.005 --> 01:20:36.005 looking for ecological reports, not just the arborist reports, 01:20:36.005 --> 01:20:40.007 which we did trial, and we found that they weren't that great a value. 01:20:40.007 --> 01:20:43.005 But they are valuable when you're starting 01:20:43.005 --> 01:20:47.014 to consider things that Councillor del Porto has said about the next storey 01:20:47.014 --> 01:20:51.006 down in that canopy and how we can get - 01:20:51.006 --> 01:20:53.005 we do need ecological reports. 01:20:53.005 --> 01:20:56.006 One of the biggest fears that I've got for this noncompliance 01:20:56.006 --> 01:21:00.022 of the canopy tree replacement program is the fact that they just can't grow 01:21:00.022 --> 01:21:05.002 because you see them being put into ground that has got an underground 01:21:05.002 --> 01:21:06.014 car park under it. 01:21:06.014 --> 01:21:09.010 Now, if we continue to build the underground car parks 01:21:09.010 --> 01:21:13.005 in Beaumaris at the rate we're doing at the moment, I don't think there 01:21:13.005 --> 01:21:15.020 will be too many canopy trees that are going to survive. 01:21:15.020 --> 01:21:23.018 I just saw a massive, precious tree die in Beaumaris and it just happened 01:21:23.018 --> 01:21:29.004 to have a development literally two metres dug down 10 feet 01:21:29.004 --> 01:21:34.014 in heavy footings and this magnificent tree is now dead. 01:21:34.014 --> 01:21:36.018 So things aren't working out. 01:21:36.018 --> 01:21:38.023 You can't keep putting up concrete underground 01:21:38.023 --> 01:21:41.016 and expecting canopy trees to grow above it. 01:21:41.016 --> 01:21:44.011 CR EVANS: All those in favour? 01:21:44.011 --> 01:21:45.024 Against? 01:21:45.024 --> 01:21:47.011 Carried. 01:21:47.011 --> 01:21:50.002 10.6, renomination of members to the Bayside Arts 01:21:50.002 --> 01:21:51.015 and Gallery Advisory Committee. 01:21:51.015 --> 01:21:53.002 No written statements. 01:21:53.002 --> 01:21:54.015 Can I have a mover? 01:21:54.015 --> 01:21:56.019 Councillor Castelli. 01:21:56.019 --> 01:21:58.018 Seconded Councillor del Porto. 01:21:58.018 --> 01:22:00.024 CR CASTELLI: Definitely the recommend nation. 01:22:00.024 --> 01:22:02.020 Of course I support the recommendation. 01:22:02.020 --> 01:22:04.021 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Castelli. 01:22:04.021 --> 01:22:07.021 CR CASTELLI: Nomination of our members, there is four of them and 01:22:07.021 --> 01:22:11.008 they have been wonderful members to our committee. 01:22:11.008 --> 01:22:15.018 They contributed a lot to it, they're professional people and, 01:22:15.018 --> 01:22:19.002 of course, they are valued. 01:22:19.002 --> 01:22:26.020 So they have decided to return, which is fabulous and as a chair, 01:22:26.020 --> 01:22:29.016 I welcome them back and I will nominate them 01:22:29.016 --> 01:22:35.008 because they've been, I think, with one of them I think I've been last 01:22:35.008 --> 01:22:37.022 term as well. 01:22:37.022 --> 01:22:40.005 And two, there's two of them, that's right. 01:22:40.005 --> 01:22:42.023 So one member of the board was appointed 01:22:42.023 --> 01:22:48.022 for three years term on 21 February 2018, Aravind Vasan. 01:22:48.022 --> 01:22:52.015 I'm just hoping I like the idea of the name called out. 01:22:52.015 --> 01:22:57.017 And three members were appointed for a three-year term on 21st 01:22:57.017 --> 01:23:05.013 of 2016 which was Brian Hewitt, Bo Rutecki and Sarah Morris. 01:23:05.013 --> 01:23:10.002 So Aravind Vasan's first term has concluded and he would like 01:23:10.002 --> 01:23:11.016 to be reappointed. 01:23:11.016 --> 01:23:16.009 And, of course, we've got our other Brian Hewitt, 01:23:16.009 --> 01:23:19.014 Bo Rutecki and Sarah Morris's first term 01:23:19.014 --> 01:23:25.023 will conclude in May and they would like to be appointed for a second term. 01:23:28.002 --> 01:23:29.013 I'm in your hands. 01:23:29.013 --> 01:23:32.018 They're professional, they're fabulous, they've contributed a lot 01:23:32.018 --> 01:23:35.005 to our arts committee. 01:23:35.005 --> 01:23:37.005 They've done so much. 01:23:37.005 --> 01:23:38.018 I'm in your hands. 01:23:38.018 --> 01:23:41.004 CR EVANS: Thank you very much, Councillor Castelli. 01:23:41.004 --> 01:23:42.017 Councillor del Porto. 01:23:42.017 --> 01:23:45.011 CR DEL PORTO: I absolutely agree with Councillor Castelli. 01:23:45.011 --> 01:23:47.017 We've got some high-calibre members here. 01:23:47.017 --> 01:23:52.020 There's a curator, a business person, an art critic. 01:23:52.020 --> 01:23:56.003 So the other thing that they also contribute to 01:23:56.003 --> 01:23:59.016 is a really cohesive board. 01:23:59.016 --> 01:24:07.012 They seem to be able to contribute, people listen to each other and we have 01:24:07.012 --> 01:24:10.004 to remember to vote on stuff because everybody seems to be 01:24:10.004 --> 01:24:13.021 at the end of it there's a consensus and the governance manager says you've 01:24:13.021 --> 01:24:15.009 got to vote on it now. 01:24:17.024 --> 01:24:22.008 It's a really lovely board and I think that collegiality makes a 01:24:22.008 --> 01:24:27.002 big difference and I'm sure you know that when you have a board that 01:24:27.002 --> 01:24:28.017 is not getting on that well. 01:24:28.017 --> 01:24:30.005 So this is just wonderful. 01:24:30.005 --> 01:24:33.004 CR EVANS: Thank you very much, Councillor del Porto. 01:24:33.004 --> 01:24:34.017 Councillor Martin. 01:24:34.017 --> 01:24:37.019 CR MARTIN: Completely support the new board members but I would put 01:24:37.019 --> 01:24:40.011 out that we're two years in to a four-year strategic plan, 01:24:40.011 --> 01:24:41.024 or action plan. 01:24:41.024 --> 01:24:47.009 A strategic plan for the Bayside Arts and some of these things are really, 01:24:47.009 --> 01:24:49.022 really important, providing opportunities 01:24:49.022 --> 01:24:51.024 for local artists to develop their practice 01:24:51.024 --> 01:24:54.002 and contribute programs. 01:24:54.002 --> 01:24:58.002 Now, the action item on that was to continue off a free studio space 01:24:58.002 --> 01:25:01.009 for artists through the Billilla arts student 01:25:01.009 --> 01:25:04.008 program and incorporate into other programs. 01:25:04.008 --> 01:25:09.020 Down my way, I think the opening of the Advantage Road Artists' Studios 01:25:09.020 --> 01:25:13.024 in the street was one of the most magnificent things I have 01:25:13.024 --> 01:25:15.011 seen Bayside do. 01:25:15.011 --> 01:25:19.022 You had the food carts there, the bar going, all the things open. 01:25:19.022 --> 01:25:25.012 Jazz was playing, and I was seeing art for the first time that I 01:25:25.012 --> 01:25:27.019 really got into. 01:25:27.019 --> 01:25:30.011 No offence to the Brighton Town Hall, love all that stuff. 01:25:30.011 --> 01:25:36.002 But these guys were doing Pottery, welding up things, making dresses. 01:25:36.002 --> 01:25:39.014 You walked in their studios and they were vibrant and alive. 01:25:39.014 --> 01:25:43.014 Down Advantage Road is what we're talking about, 01:25:43.014 --> 01:25:46.016 that was real art, real oil paint getting over you, 01:25:46.016 --> 01:25:48.017 it was brilliant. 01:25:48.017 --> 01:25:50.015 The kids were running around. 01:25:50.015 --> 01:25:54.002 I really do encourage the board to get stuck into that sort of stuff. 01:25:54.002 --> 01:25:57.016 This plan two years in, is going really well. 01:25:57.016 --> 01:26:00.010 And I think - like we're just hitting our straps. 01:26:00.010 --> 01:26:01.023 So it's really exciting. 01:26:01.023 --> 01:26:05.005 I'm so glad those board members are staying because obviously they're 01:26:05.005 --> 01:26:08.002 the ones that have suggested all this stuff. 01:26:08.002 --> 01:26:12.002 That butter factory just up the road, too, whoa, come on. 01:26:12.002 --> 01:26:14.024 If you really want to see something cool - 01:26:14.024 --> 01:26:16.011 should I say cool? 01:26:16.011 --> 01:26:18.008 CR EVANS: Absolutely. 01:26:18.008 --> 01:26:20.005 Thank you, Councillor Martin. 01:26:20.005 --> 01:26:21.018 Any other councillors? 01:26:21.018 --> 01:26:23.007 CR MARTIN: Button factory, sorry. 01:26:23.007 --> 01:26:24.020 CR EVANS: Thank you. 01:26:24.020 --> 01:26:28.002 I went there other day, terrific. 01:26:28.002 --> 01:26:29.014 Any other councillors? 01:26:29.014 --> 01:26:33.002 Just before you close Councillor Castelli, 01:26:33.002 --> 01:26:35.018 yes, I take your point, Councillor del Porto, 01:26:35.018 --> 01:26:42.019 it is so much more cohesive when you have a board that gets on 01:26:42.019 --> 01:26:49.002 and really joins together with such cohesiveness. 01:26:49.002 --> 01:26:54.007 We have seen boards that haven't got on and it tends 01:26:54.007 --> 01:26:58.008 to not have outcomes that are very pleasant. 01:26:58.008 --> 01:27:00.014 So it's wonderful that that's happening. 01:27:00.014 --> 01:27:02.014 Do you wish to close, Councillor Castelli? 01:27:02.014 --> 01:27:04.002 CR CASTELLI: Yes, yes. 01:27:04.002 --> 01:27:05.014 So, so true. 01:27:05.014 --> 01:27:07.002 Fantastic. 01:27:07.002 --> 01:27:12.024 Yes, I will take that onboard, Councillor Martin. 01:27:12.024 --> 01:27:17.015 I've got those ideas as well and I think with Billilla onboard, 01:27:17.015 --> 01:27:21.018 we can do a lot of things that you've 01:27:21.018 --> 01:27:27.010 just brought forward, functions such as these, art functions, 01:27:27.010 --> 01:27:31.017 and I think I've got a great opportunity on one, hopefully it 01:27:31.017 --> 01:27:33.010 will come through. 01:27:33.010 --> 01:27:36.007 I will take that onboard. 01:27:36.007 --> 01:27:37.019 Yeah, you're very right. 01:27:37.019 --> 01:27:42.014 We'll try to go that way but we'll see if we can get Billilla 01:27:42.014 --> 01:27:45.002 onboard with that. 01:27:45.002 --> 01:27:47.015 CR EVANS: All those in favour? 01:27:47.015 --> 01:27:49.002 Against? 01:27:49.002 --> 01:27:51.008 Carried. 01:27:51.008 --> 01:27:55.009 10.7, governance policies: Gifts and hospitality policy and conflict 01:27:55.009 --> 01:27:56.021 of interest policy. 01:27:56.021 --> 01:27:58.012 No written statements have a mover? 01:27:58.012 --> 01:28:00.002 Moved Councillor Martin. 01:28:00.002 --> 01:28:01.012 Seconded Councillor del Porto. 01:28:01.012 --> 01:28:03.002 Councillor Martin. 01:28:03.002 --> 01:28:04.012 CR MARTIN: Thank you, Mr Mayor. 01:28:04.012 --> 01:28:07.003 This is probably the most important policy 01:28:07.003 --> 01:28:09.010 for elected councillors. 01:28:09.010 --> 01:28:14.024 All policy procedures and all governments are important but this 01:28:14.024 --> 01:28:16.020 is really important to us. 01:28:16.020 --> 01:28:20.024 And it is coming off the back of the Local Government Act 2020 and I 01:28:20.024 --> 01:28:24.007 will just point out a couple of things, that the additional obligations 01:28:24.007 --> 01:28:27.019 that have been placed on elected councillors across Victoria. 01:28:27.019 --> 01:28:30.015 One, define gifts that must not be accepted 01:28:30.015 --> 01:28:35.002 even if such gifts are not prohibited under the legislation. 01:28:35.002 --> 01:28:38.006 Clarifying the types of gifts that may be accepted. 01:28:38.006 --> 01:28:42.020 Requiring the declares of all gift that is are accepted or declined in a gift 01:28:42.020 --> 01:28:47.018 and hospitality register including those below the gift threshold. 01:28:47.018 --> 01:28:51.002 Let's have a talk about that threshold for a moment. 01:28:51.002 --> 01:28:55.016 But beforehand, the first thing is gifts must never be sought. 01:28:55.016 --> 01:28:58.006 Gifts offered to councillors must be politely 01:28:58.006 --> 01:29:01.004 declined and a declaration made indicating 01:29:01.004 --> 01:29:03.009 the gift was declined. 01:29:03.009 --> 01:29:06.013 So even if someone offers you a gift, then you've got to go 01:29:06.013 --> 01:29:09.004 and tell someone that they did offer you a gift 01:29:09.004 --> 01:29:11.009 and you politely declined it. 01:29:11.009 --> 01:29:15.012 A gift or a token of a nominal value of $150 - sorry, no, 01:29:15.012 --> 01:29:23.021 $15, Mr Mayor, $15, $15 may be accepted, 01:29:23.021 --> 01:29:28.007 may be accepted only if it's deemed rude or disrespectful 01:29:28.007 --> 01:29:33.002 to refuse the gift and, of course, if you do accept it, you must go 01:29:33.002 --> 01:29:37.008 and make the declaration as well, indicating the gift was accepted. 01:29:37.008 --> 01:29:39.004 So you need to declare that. 01:29:39.004 --> 01:29:41.020 A gift may be accepted where a councillor has undertaken 01:29:41.020 --> 01:29:44.002 a presentation or a guest speaker involvement, 01:29:44.002 --> 01:29:47.002 which the mayor does a lot, however the declaration form must be 01:29:47.002 --> 01:29:49.010 completed as well. 01:29:49.010 --> 01:29:52.002 Lastly, a councillor may only accept 01:29:52.002 --> 01:29:55.013 hospitality when representing Bayside Council 01:29:55.013 --> 01:29:58.019 and undertaking their public duty as mayor or councillor 01:29:58.019 --> 01:30:00.018 and the hospitality is reasonable. 01:30:00.018 --> 01:30:02.005 I won't go into that. 01:30:02.005 --> 01:30:05.000 The point that I'm making is that things have changed. 01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:10.019 The days of taking hospitality of any sort, seem to me, to be - 01:30:10.019 --> 01:30:13.016 they're trying to make it extremely annoying 01:30:13.016 --> 01:30:15.009 for someone to take anything. 01:30:15.009 --> 01:30:18.007 And I received advice from a very senior member 01:30:18.007 --> 01:30:22.019 of the Local Government community, just not go to anything 01:30:22.019 --> 01:30:24.009 and then you're pretty well safe. 01:30:24.009 --> 01:30:27.019 And I was invited to two things recently and I said 01:30:27.019 --> 01:30:30.021 to both those people, look, I would love to go to that 01:30:30.021 --> 01:30:32.009 but you know what? 01:30:32.009 --> 01:30:35.001 I just feel uncomfortable even going to this sort of stuff 01:30:35.001 --> 01:30:37.008 and being around it, whether I pay for it or not. 01:30:37.008 --> 01:30:40.010 I know that's not great for you, but I would prefer to come 01:30:40.010 --> 01:30:44.000 to something else that I just come on my own steam and I 01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:46.003 will let you know when I'm there. 01:30:46.003 --> 01:30:49.000 I think that's probably the approach, the practice, the kind 01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:51.019 of way we do things in the modern world now. 01:30:51.019 --> 01:30:56.001 But being seen on the front table at a thing, even if you paid for it, 01:30:56.001 --> 01:30:58.008 perception is the reality. 01:30:58.008 --> 01:30:59.021 Perception is the reality. 01:30:59.021 --> 01:31:02.011 And conflicts of interest is all about perception. 01:31:02.011 --> 01:31:05.018 And out there in the community, it is to say there they go, 01:31:05.018 --> 01:31:09.012 pigs in the trough, off they go again. 01:31:09.012 --> 01:31:13.013 I don't think any of us have but we get accused of it every day 01:31:13.013 --> 01:31:16.023 and when we're seen out and about, that's what people think, 01:31:16.023 --> 01:31:19.006 in my opinion. 01:31:19.006 --> 01:31:22.006 There's nothing you can do about that except not be there. 01:31:22.006 --> 01:31:26.020 So it is really important to go through that and I'm really glad that, 01:31:26.020 --> 01:31:29.024 you know, it's in tonight, at the very early stage of the 4-year 01:31:29.024 --> 01:31:32.002 plan that we've spoken about it. 01:31:32.002 --> 01:31:33.022 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Martin. 01:31:33.022 --> 01:31:35.013 Councillor del Porto. 01:31:35.013 --> 01:31:37.015 CR DEL PORTO: I've been on council a few years 01:31:37.015 --> 01:31:43.007 and the requirements for conflicts of interest 01:31:43.007 --> 01:31:48.024 and hospitality are getting more and more rigid, which is fine with me. 01:31:48.024 --> 01:31:54.007 I was just looking at another point about there are now only two 01:31:54.007 --> 01:31:56.005 descriptions of conflicts of interest. 01:31:56.005 --> 01:32:00.021 You've got general conflict of interest and material conflict of interest. 01:32:00.021 --> 01:32:03.022 Only before the last election we had direct 01:32:03.022 --> 01:32:07.022 and indirect conflict and so if you had an investment property, OK, 01:32:07.022 --> 01:32:12.005 I do in Well Street, I would have no conflict 01:32:12.005 --> 01:32:13.019 on amenity issues. 01:32:13.019 --> 01:32:16.023 In other words, car parking being an amenity issue 01:32:16.023 --> 01:32:20.017 and I'd have lived there then there was no conflict there. 01:32:20.017 --> 01:32:23.005 Now, of course, this is a different type 01:32:23.005 --> 01:32:25.002 of legislation that says well, you know, 01:32:25.002 --> 01:32:28.009 it doesn't matter that you live there or not, it's now general conflict 01:32:28.009 --> 01:32:30.020 and therefore I declared a conflict tonight. 01:32:30.020 --> 01:32:34.003 It's probably easier because, as Councillor Martin says, 01:32:34.003 --> 01:32:37.013 most of the time if in doubt, get out. 01:32:37.013 --> 01:32:41.013 That's the way that Brighton used to it, I believe, before my time. 01:32:41.013 --> 01:32:43.014 But I think that's the way to do it. 01:32:43.014 --> 01:32:48.018 I think when it comes to hospitality, my view is that - 01:32:48.018 --> 01:32:53.019 I understand what Councillor Martin says but you can never appease people 01:32:53.019 --> 01:32:56.021 who are council critics, council watchers. 01:32:56.021 --> 01:32:58.023 Some of them will never ever believe 01:32:58.023 --> 01:33:01.004 anything you say, like I paid for it. 01:33:01.004 --> 01:33:06.012 So I think that from the point of view, you know, trying to be courteous 01:33:06.012 --> 01:33:10.005 to your host, you know, I would rather say, look, you know, 01:33:10.005 --> 01:33:13.019 I hope you don't mind but I will pay for it but I will come to it 01:33:13.019 --> 01:33:18.023 because I think they don't understand that things are so rigid now 01:33:18.023 --> 01:33:23.013 that people think you're being corrupt or bribed. 01:33:23.013 --> 01:33:27.009 So I would rather pay for lunch but do turn up and if people 01:33:27.009 --> 01:33:31.007 outside see me having lunch and they don't know that I paid for it, 01:33:31.007 --> 01:33:32.019 I think I'll live with it. 01:33:32.019 --> 01:33:35.003 I think I will live with that perception otherwise 01:33:35.003 --> 01:33:36.015 we live in fear. 01:33:36.015 --> 01:33:38.003 We live in fear. 01:33:38.003 --> 01:33:40.024 I don't think that's right because we're doing it for the love 01:33:40.024 --> 01:33:42.011 of the community. 01:33:42.011 --> 01:33:43.024 That's why we're here. 01:33:43.024 --> 01:33:46.002 That's why we're discussing things tonight 01:33:46.002 --> 01:33:47.019 and it's been a great council meeting. 01:33:47.019 --> 01:33:49.007 We've achieved things. 01:33:49.007 --> 01:33:51.006 So we're not doing it for any other reason. 01:33:51.006 --> 01:33:53.008 So people want to criticise, by all means do. 01:33:53.008 --> 01:33:54.022 Encourage them to stand next time. 01:33:54.022 --> 01:33:56.023 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 01:33:56.023 --> 01:33:58.010 Any other councillors? 01:33:58.010 --> 01:34:01.021 Just before you close, Councillor Martin, I endorse that. 01:34:01.021 --> 01:34:06.024 I think the main thing that comes out of this is the declaration. 01:34:06.024 --> 01:34:10.015 You must fill out your gift declaration and if there 01:34:10.015 --> 01:34:14.013 is any doubt that people have, as Councillor del Porto says, 01:34:14.013 --> 01:34:16.020 the perception of people you can never change. 01:34:16.020 --> 01:34:20.014 People will perceive things but if it's there in black and white, 01:34:20.014 --> 01:34:24.014 held by the governance officer that you have declared whatever you want 01:34:24.014 --> 01:34:27.016 to declare and you can take whatever position 01:34:27.016 --> 01:34:31.003 you particularly want to do, sometimes you may want to go to a thing 01:34:31.003 --> 01:34:37.022 for some particular reason, my general philosophy is try not to go 01:34:37.022 --> 01:34:41.016 to all of the things that you're invited to 01:34:41.016 --> 01:34:44.003 and especially when they're over the top. 01:34:44.003 --> 01:34:47.007 I think that's the sort of thing that most people are trying 01:34:47.007 --> 01:34:49.002 to stamp out. 01:34:49.002 --> 01:34:54.005 The things where they are just over the top and, you know, you have 01:34:54.005 --> 01:34:58.008 to have a balanced view and also, if you - 01:34:58.008 --> 01:35:01.008 I take Councillor del Porto's thing of conflict of interest. 01:35:01.008 --> 01:35:03.019 If you are in doubt, then get out. 01:35:03.019 --> 01:35:07.016 But with the gift things, I think that it is up 01:35:07.016 --> 01:35:11.013 to every councillor to make their own decision 01:35:11.013 --> 01:35:15.015 but the decision of putting it on a form, I think, 01:35:15.015 --> 01:35:17.003 is you must do that. 01:35:17.003 --> 01:35:21.024 You just must declare it on a form and give it to the governance officer. 01:35:21.024 --> 01:35:24.017 Then you are covered. 01:35:24.017 --> 01:35:26.010 You wish to close, Councillor Martin? 01:35:26.010 --> 01:35:27.023 OK, all those in favour? 01:35:27.023 --> 01:35:29.010 Against? 01:35:29.010 --> 01:35:30.023 Carried. 01:35:33.005 --> 01:35:37.012 10.8, Councillor Castelli, you wish to - CR CASTELLI: Yes, 01:35:37.012 --> 01:35:40.020 Mr Mayor, can I propose a block? 01:35:40.020 --> 01:35:42.007 CR EVANS: Yes. 01:35:42.007 --> 01:35:46.004 10.8, 10.9, 10.10. 01:35:46.004 --> 01:35:51.020 CR EVANS: Councillor Castelli has moved block motion for 10.8, 9 and 10. 01:35:51.020 --> 01:35:54.019 Do we have a seconder? 01:35:54.019 --> 01:35:57.002 Seconded Councillor Martin. 01:35:57.002 --> 01:35:59.002 All those in favour? 01:35:59.002 --> 01:36:00.013 Against? 01:36:00.013 --> 01:36:03.017 Carried. 01:36:03.017 --> 01:36:06.011 10.11, mew nil pal Association of Victoria - 01:36:06.011 --> 01:36:08.020 State Council meeting - call for motions. 01:36:08.020 --> 01:36:12.021 Councillors, will be aware of a late agenda item published 01:36:12.021 --> 01:36:16.007 yesterday which will be considered as item 10.11. 01:36:16.007 --> 01:36:18.010 There is also an amended officer 01:36:18.010 --> 01:36:23.016 recommendation which is now shown on the screen with the changes in bold 01:36:23.016 --> 01:36:28.002 and includes an additional motion concerning computer parking. 01:36:28.002 --> 01:36:30.009 There are no written statements received. 01:36:30.009 --> 01:36:32.016 Somebody wish to move the amended? 01:36:32.016 --> 01:36:34.011 CR DEL PORTO: Yes, I would like to move. 01:36:34.011 --> 01:36:37.015 CR EVANS: Moved Councillor del Porto, seconded Councillor Martin. 01:36:37.015 --> 01:36:39.003 Councillor del Porto. 01:36:39.003 --> 01:36:41.006 CR DEL PORTO: I want to quickly go through them 01:36:41.006 --> 01:36:44.002 because these are important motions that council will put up 01:36:44.002 --> 01:36:45.014 at State conference. 01:36:45.014 --> 01:36:48.018 The first one is about the aged care services. 01:36:51.002 --> 01:36:54.008 We believe that the MAV could do a little bit more 01:36:54.008 --> 01:37:00.005 to advocate older Victorians to provide a high-quality service 01:37:00.005 --> 01:37:05.009 and ensure the ones that are experiencing vulnerability are provided 01:37:05.009 --> 01:37:07.011 with additional support. 01:37:07.011 --> 01:37:17.017 We would like to have that one put up at the State conference in May. 01:37:17.017 --> 01:37:24.002 SEC CCA, the MAV formally engaged and work with SEC CCA 01:37:24.002 --> 01:37:29.009 and the Victorian Greenhouse Alliances in the development of a robust policy 01:37:29.009 --> 01:37:31.019 and advocacy program relating to a sector-driven 01:37:31.019 --> 01:37:34.022 climate change poll, a and strategy position. 01:37:34.022 --> 01:37:41.011 Planning controls, the MAV will be called upon 01:37:41.011 --> 01:37:43.022 to ask the State Government to reform the Planning 01:37:43.022 --> 01:37:46.022 and environment Act 1987 and the Planning Scheme Amendment 01:37:46.022 --> 01:37:49.005 process to provide councils with greater ability 01:37:49.005 --> 01:37:53.002 to determine the mandatory built form planning requirements 01:37:53.002 --> 01:37:55.002 for its local communities. 01:37:55.002 --> 01:37:59.011 And commuter parking, that the MAV advocates on behalf 01:37:59.011 --> 01:38:03.011 of metropolitan councils for the State Government 01:38:03.011 --> 01:38:09.002 to proactively pursue using available Federal Government funding 01:38:09.002 --> 01:38:14.013 to construct commuter car parking on suitable State Government land. 01:38:14.013 --> 01:38:18.020 With the aged care services, I think I've already spoken about that. 01:38:18.020 --> 01:38:23.021 I just want to touch on the planning controls. 01:38:26.010 --> 01:38:29.015 Members of Parliament have raised a similar issue. 01:38:29.015 --> 01:38:37.013 We really would like to see council regain some more powers 01:38:37.013 --> 01:38:41.024 so that we could be the final arbiter in some instances. 01:38:41.024 --> 01:38:44.005 Right now, the only thing that we've got control 01:38:44.005 --> 01:38:46.004 over is really the trees. 01:38:46.004 --> 01:38:49.017 You know, if we say a tree cannot be removed, 01:38:49.017 --> 01:38:55.015 I don't think it can go to VCAT if it's a decision by council. 01:38:55.015 --> 01:39:01.021 The destructive elements of some of those developments 01:39:01.021 --> 01:39:06.012 in our activity centres is, unfortunately, 01:39:06.012 --> 01:39:09.022 something that we'll live with for a long, long time. 01:39:09.022 --> 01:39:13.002 No-one's against development but I think if you go down some 01:39:13.002 --> 01:39:16.007 of the streets that we have in the activity centres you really 01:39:16.007 --> 01:39:20.007 think you are not in Brighton or East 01:39:20.007 --> 01:39:25.016 Brighton or Sandringham, you're somewhere, Point Cook, 01:39:25.016 --> 01:39:31.003 or Templestowe, Doncaster, it depends on how big the house is. 01:39:31.003 --> 01:39:36.006 I think it's something we should be looking at. 01:39:36.006 --> 01:39:41.014 I don't think it's going to be easy but I think that we have an opportunity 01:39:41.014 --> 01:39:45.018 with the new board and I will talk about the new board when we talk 01:39:45.018 --> 01:39:51.008 about the delegates report and with the fact that we have possibly - 01:39:51.008 --> 01:39:55.010 definitely a State election next November, 01:39:55.010 --> 01:40:00.010 possibly a federal election maybe a little bit delayed as of events 01:40:00.010 --> 01:40:02.000 of the last few days. 01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:05.004 It might not be as early as I expected it to be this year. 01:40:05.004 --> 01:40:07.024 But it will happen before November next year. 01:40:07.024 --> 01:40:09.011 CR EVANS: Thank you. 01:40:09.011 --> 01:40:10.024 Councillor Martin. 01:40:10.024 --> 01:40:12.012 CR MARTIN: Yeah, look, thank you. 01:40:12.012 --> 01:40:16.001 I will talk a little bit about the South East Councils Climate 01:40:16.001 --> 01:40:18.000 Change Alliance motion. 01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:22.011 Now where this comes from is that this is just part 01:40:22.011 --> 01:40:24.003 of one alliance around Victoria. 01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:28.013 There's ten or 11. 01:40:32.011 --> 01:40:36.011 There used to be greenhouse alliances and now they're 01:40:36.011 --> 01:40:38.002 climate change alliances. 01:40:38.002 --> 01:40:43.010 But what we've uncovered through this process is that the MAV, 01:40:43.010 --> 01:40:49.001 up until - well, it's still today, it develops its own climate change 01:40:49.001 --> 01:40:53.007 policies within its own resource within the MAV. 01:40:53.007 --> 01:40:55.017 When I was on the Metropolitan Transport Forum 01:40:55.017 --> 01:40:58.011 they used to create their own metropolitan 01:40:58.011 --> 01:41:03.008 transport policy and strategy as well only to find that it was 01:41:03.008 --> 01:41:06.017 in conflict with the metropolitan transport forum. 01:41:06.017 --> 01:41:11.015 Now, what this motion is trying to do, with the background 01:41:11.015 --> 01:41:15.024 of a new president who used to be the convenor of one 01:41:15.024 --> 01:41:22.003 of the greenhouse alliances, a new CEO relatively, 01:41:22.003 --> 01:41:25.015 and the first conference under both these leaders. 01:41:25.015 --> 01:41:27.016 This is the first conference this they're 01:41:27.016 --> 01:41:30.002 actually holding because of COVID last year. 01:41:30.002 --> 01:41:32.018 So this motion isn't about just another 01:41:32.018 --> 01:41:36.013 motion MAV conference, this is about reform. 01:41:36.013 --> 01:41:41.023 This is about getting the MAV to really engage with these alliances, 01:41:41.023 --> 01:41:46.020 bring them together, and say the alliances are saying this, 01:41:46.020 --> 01:41:49.016 we endorse that, that's our position. 01:41:49.016 --> 01:41:53.016 So the current resource that's in the MAV turns 01:41:53.016 --> 01:41:57.018 from a researcher developing policy for the board of the MAV 01:41:57.018 --> 01:42:01.016 into a coordinator of the alliances, to bring them together, 01:42:01.016 --> 01:42:04.019 to get policy positions, get them up to the board and get the board 01:42:04.019 --> 01:42:08.023 to endorse them so that we're all speaking from the same hymn book. 01:42:08.023 --> 01:42:12.018 It's really important reform and it's something there is a lot 01:42:12.018 --> 01:42:17.017 of councillors who are looking to the new president and the new CEO 01:42:17.017 --> 01:42:25.002 of the MAV to bring much needed reform we cannot keep going like this anymore. 01:42:25.002 --> 01:42:27.008 Councils will start pulling out. 01:42:27.008 --> 01:42:31.018 We're putting a lot of money into the MAV, it's desperately 01:42:31.018 --> 01:42:33.005 in need of reform. 01:42:33.005 --> 01:42:35.002 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Martin. 01:42:35.002 --> 01:42:36.021 Any other councillors? 01:42:36.021 --> 01:42:38.008 There are none. 01:42:38.008 --> 01:42:40.009 Councillor del Porto, do you wish to close? 01:42:40.009 --> 01:42:43.017 CR DEL PORTO: I wanted to touch on the aged services rationale. 01:42:48.014 --> 01:42:50.005 There is an opportunity presented 01:42:50.005 --> 01:42:56.003 in the final report the royal commission provides the current 01:42:56.003 --> 01:42:59.002 local government sector with a wind o to advocate 01:42:59.002 --> 01:43:02.008 for meaningful change in the lives of those in our community. 01:43:02.008 --> 01:43:05.004 That's something we should raise at the MAV. 01:43:07.006 --> 01:43:11.002 We need to have mandatory built form mandatory 01:43:11.002 --> 01:43:13.007 requirements not guidelines. 01:43:13.007 --> 01:43:17.020 Guidelines are things that are challengeable and challenged 01:43:17.020 --> 01:43:20.010 and are also open to interpretation which 01:43:20.010 --> 01:43:22.013 is exactly what happens every time. 01:43:22.013 --> 01:43:27.024 I tend to be a little bit different from Councillor Martin about the MAV. 01:43:27.024 --> 01:43:31.006 Years and years ago, Councillor Martin, the MAV, a couple of councils, 01:43:31.006 --> 01:43:33.008 including the City of Melbourne pulled out. 01:43:33.008 --> 01:43:36.009 They said no, we're not happy with things. 01:43:36.009 --> 01:43:39.002 We want to see a different direction. 01:43:39.002 --> 01:43:44.011 They've all come back because to create another type of MAV 01:43:44.011 --> 01:43:46.017 is virtually impossible. 01:43:46.017 --> 01:43:50.021 If you split it up, as I said to Councillor Martin once, which 01:43:50.021 --> 01:43:54.014 is something that was on people's minds ten years ago, metro, 01:43:54.014 --> 01:43:58.005 rural, whatever you want to say, how to divide them, you're just going 01:43:58.005 --> 01:44:00.021 to make them weaker. 01:44:00.021 --> 01:44:05.013 We do have a new president, we do have a new board and I 01:44:05.013 --> 01:44:08.021 will talk to, when it comes to the report, 01:44:08.021 --> 01:44:13.015 and I'm very hopeful that this is the year to get these people going. 01:44:13.015 --> 01:44:15.020 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 01:44:15.020 --> 01:44:17.007 All those in favour? 01:44:17.007 --> 01:44:18.020 Against? 01:44:18.020 --> 01:44:20.007 Carried. 01:44:20.007 --> 01:44:22.015 11, reports by delegates. 01:44:22.015 --> 01:44:24.024 One, Association of Bayside Municipalities, 01:44:24.024 --> 01:44:26.011 is Councillor Stitfold. 01:44:26.011 --> 01:44:30.012 CR STITFOLD: We're yet to meet but it's coming up very soon. 01:44:30.012 --> 01:44:32.014 CR EVANS: Thank you. 01:44:32.014 --> 01:44:35.004 Metropolitan Trans[port Forum, Councillor Castelli. 01:44:35.004 --> 01:44:39.005 CR CASTELLI: Just a very quick word here. 01:44:39.005 --> 01:44:44.004 The meeting was held on 3 March discussing 01:44:44.004 --> 01:44:50.010 the strategic plan. 01:44:50.010 --> 01:44:57.014 The main areas of focus are around active transport, 01:44:57.014 --> 01:45:01.002 increasing bus patronage and seeking commitment 01:45:01.002 --> 01:45:05.023 to competitive alternatives to cars. 01:45:05.023 --> 01:45:09.008 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Castelli. 01:45:09.008 --> 01:45:12.003 Municipal Association of Victoria, Councillor del Porto. 01:45:12.003 --> 01:45:15.010 CR DEL PORTO: I have spoken to councillors about it but this 01:45:15.010 --> 01:45:16.023 is a public meeting. 01:45:16.023 --> 01:45:20.019 We've had elections for the reps, for the south-east region 01:45:20.019 --> 01:45:23.009 and we've had an election for the new president. 01:45:23.009 --> 01:45:27.006 Now our rep is continuing to be Council Cyrus 01:45:27.006 --> 01:45:28.019 from Stonnington Council. 01:45:28.019 --> 01:45:30.024 She's well connected with the Labor Government 01:45:30.024 --> 01:45:33.010 and has done a good job for us. 01:45:33.010 --> 01:45:38.005 She's very responsive to requests that we have and 01:45:38.005 --> 01:45:41.014 all those points that I raised, except for the SECCCA one, 01:45:41.014 --> 01:45:45.006 which we didn't touch on because I wasn't aware you wanted 01:45:45.006 --> 01:45:47.011 to raise it, have been points that I've raised. 01:45:52.009 --> 01:45:57.008 The president is not a current board member 01:45:57.008 --> 01:45:59.013 but has been a board member. 01:45:59.013 --> 01:46:02.019 Again, I contacted him, congratulated him, and 01:46:02.019 --> 01:46:07.010 he assured me that once he puts his feet under the table, 01:46:07.010 --> 01:46:13.023 he will get in contact with me and have a chat and 01:46:13.023 --> 01:46:16.018 will raise those issues before the conference, anyway. 01:46:16.018 --> 01:46:19.024 So I'm sort of waiting for him to contact me some time next week. 01:46:19.024 --> 01:46:22.012 CR EVANS: Thank you very much. 01:46:22.012 --> 01:46:27.004 Inner South Metropolitan Mayors Forum, there has been no meeting. 01:46:27.004 --> 01:46:29.007 Metropolitan Local Government Waste Forum. 01:46:29.007 --> 01:46:30.020 Councillor Martin. 01:46:30.020 --> 01:46:32.015 CR MARTIN: There hasn't been a meeting. 01:46:32.015 --> 01:46:35.005 CR EVANS: South East Councils Climate Change Alliance, 01:46:35.005 --> 01:46:38.010 Councillor Martin or Councillor Stitfold. 01:46:38.010 --> 01:46:39.023 Councillor Martin. 01:46:39.023 --> 01:46:41.019 CR MARTIN: Yes, we did have a very good 01:46:41.019 --> 01:46:43.015 meeting last week. 01:46:43.015 --> 01:46:45.002 It was a two-hour meeting. 01:46:45.002 --> 01:46:48.011 We went through the action plan where we're at 01:46:48.011 --> 01:46:53.016 and also the need that so much has changed since that action plan started 01:46:53.016 --> 01:46:58.022 and things are changing so rapidly that I think the direction 01:46:58.022 --> 01:47:02.014 under the convenor, Michael Whelan, from the Bass Coast 01:47:02.014 --> 01:47:06.024 and Dominic Fontaine, is to probably start looking 01:47:06.024 --> 01:47:11.002 at two or three big items that SECCCA will own and get through. 01:47:11.002 --> 01:47:15.003 One will be ESD and getting that really through. 01:47:15.003 --> 01:47:17.021 It's really getting a lot of momentum in State Government. 01:47:17.021 --> 01:47:20.008 It's a Federal Government issue and all of that. 01:47:20.008 --> 01:47:22.020 But the other one, really, is electric vehicles. 01:47:22.020 --> 01:47:26.019 The electric vehicle procurement program and the infrastructure 01:47:26.019 --> 01:47:28.006 that goes by. 01:47:28.006 --> 01:47:31.007 Now, Bayside's just gone through its own infrastructure 01:47:31.007 --> 01:47:35.012 internally at the corporate centre and we've got our first EV charging 01:47:35.012 --> 01:47:36.024 station there as well. 01:47:36.024 --> 01:47:40.007 But the discussion was about, well, look, if one council's already done 01:47:40.007 --> 01:47:43.023 that work and picked the best provider and got a good deal, 01:47:43.023 --> 01:47:48.003 couldn't that be just shared and used and, you know, just do it 01:47:48.003 --> 01:47:51.008 and I think this is where the alliance could really add 01:47:51.008 --> 01:47:55.010 a lot of value to say, look, instead of 11 councillors doing 01:47:55.010 --> 01:47:59.006 all of that, why don't we contribute into SECCCA which 01:47:59.006 --> 01:48:03.005 is its own legal entity, they could get all that done on behalf 01:48:03.005 --> 01:48:08.002 of local councils and save a lot of money and time. 01:48:08.002 --> 01:48:12.012 I think that's somewhere where they may head, get advice from the CEOs 01:48:12.012 --> 01:48:14.002 and see how do-able that is. 01:48:14.002 --> 01:48:16.002 We know how difficult and challenging it is 01:48:16.002 --> 01:48:17.024 to do that sort of stuff. 01:48:17.024 --> 01:48:22.016 Because it's fresh and new, electric charging stations, 01:48:22.016 --> 01:48:24.015 it's something that I think could be done. 01:48:24.015 --> 01:48:26.015 It's not rocket science. 01:48:26.015 --> 01:48:29.013 And I'm not talking about town planning of where to put them all, 01:48:29.013 --> 01:48:31.004 actually just the provider. 01:48:31.004 --> 01:48:33.021 Instead of one councillor at a time picking a provider, 01:48:33.021 --> 01:48:38.006 let's getting one provider doing it at scale and that's the same 01:48:38.006 --> 01:48:39.019 with the electric vehicles. 01:48:39.019 --> 01:48:43.005 I'm convinced if you put an order in of four electric vehicles, 01:48:43.005 --> 01:48:47.022 which I think we did, and I think instead of taking six weeks it took, 01:48:47.022 --> 01:48:51.004 I think it might have been 16 weeks to actually get them into the country 01:48:51.004 --> 01:48:52.024 and get them into the Bayside car park. 01:48:52.024 --> 01:48:57.016 If you put an order of 150 in, well, you might get a ship straight 01:48:57.016 --> 01:48:59.003 from wherever they're made. 01:48:59.003 --> 01:49:01.013 So that's where SECCCA is heading. 01:49:01.013 --> 01:49:04.008 I think the next meeting will confirm the work plan 01:49:04.008 --> 01:49:06.008 for the next 12 months. 01:49:06.008 --> 01:49:10.019 CR EVANS: Did you wish to add to that, Councillor Stitfold? 01:49:10.019 --> 01:49:12.006 Thank you. 01:49:12.006 --> 01:49:15.013 Can we have a mover that the reports by delegates be received and noted? 01:49:15.013 --> 01:49:17.002 Moved Councillor Castelli. 01:49:17.002 --> 01:49:18.024 Seconded Councillor Samuel-King. 01:49:18.024 --> 01:49:20.011 All those in favour? 01:49:20.011 --> 01:49:21.024 Against? 01:49:21.024 --> 01:49:23.011 Carried. 01:49:23.011 --> 01:49:24.024 12 urgent business. 01:49:24.024 --> 01:49:27.003 Councillors, there is an urgent business item 01:49:27.003 --> 01:49:29.007 concerning the stabling yards associated 01:49:29.007 --> 01:49:33.013 with the suburban rail loop project in the Kingston Green wedge area. 01:49:33.013 --> 01:49:37.002 Can I have a procedural motion to consider this item as a matter 01:49:37.002 --> 01:49:38.014 of urgent business? 01:49:38.014 --> 01:49:40.002 CR DEL PORTO: So moved. 01:49:40.002 --> 01:49:43.012 CR EVANS: Moved Councillor del Porto, seconded Councillor Samuel-King. 01:49:43.012 --> 01:49:45.024 That the matter be relating to the proposed location 01:49:45.024 --> 01:49:49.018 of the stabling yards associated with the suburban rail loop project be 01:49:49.018 --> 01:49:52.009 considered and dealt with as an item of urgent business. 01:49:52.009 --> 01:49:54.008 All those in favour? 01:49:54.008 --> 01:49:55.021 Against? 01:49:55.021 --> 01:49:57.008 Carried. 01:49:57.008 --> 01:50:00.008 Councillors shown on the screen is the proposed urgent business 01:50:00.008 --> 01:50:01.021 motion for consideration. 01:50:01.021 --> 01:50:03.008 May I have a mover? 01:50:03.008 --> 01:50:05.009 Moved Councillor Samuel-King. 01:50:05.009 --> 01:50:07.014 Seconded Councillor Martin. 01:50:07.014 --> 01:50:09.001 Councillor Samuel-King. 01:50:12.003 --> 01:50:16.003 CR SAMUEL-KING: I'd like to move that council writes 01:50:16.003 --> 01:50:20.010 to the acting Premier of Victoria. 01:50:20.010 --> 01:50:24.005 Let's let Dan Andrews rest and recover. 01:50:24.005 --> 01:50:28.014 The Acting Premier of Victoria raise its concerns 01:50:28.014 --> 01:50:32.023 about the proposed location of the stabling yards. 01:50:32.023 --> 01:50:36.007 Also like to wish Dan Andrews well. 01:50:36.007 --> 01:50:38.015 It's really a very difficult time for him. 01:50:41.006 --> 01:50:43.013 CR EVANS: I don't think that's part of the motion. 01:50:43.013 --> 01:50:46.023 CR SAMUEL-KING: No. 01:50:46.023 --> 01:50:51.014 Writes to the Acting Premier of Victoria raising its concerns 01:50:51.014 --> 01:50:55.024 about the proposed location of the stabling yards associated 01:50:55.024 --> 01:51:01.002 with the suburban rail loop project in the Kingston Green wedge area 01:51:01.002 --> 01:51:06.008 and the potential impact of these yards on the sandbelt open space, chain 01:51:06.008 --> 01:51:09.002 of parks project. 01:51:09.002 --> 01:51:10.021 There's an and there. 01:51:10.021 --> 01:51:12.015 CR EVANS: Second part. 01:51:12.015 --> 01:51:16.002 CR SAMUEL-KING: Part 2. 01:51:16.002 --> 01:51:20.017 Requesting that detailed and authentic engagement take place 01:51:20.017 --> 01:51:24.003 with the City of Kingston and other key stakeholders 01:51:24.003 --> 01:51:29.021 on the location of the stabling yards and other infrastructure associated 01:51:29.021 --> 01:51:33.014 with the suburban rail loop project. 01:51:33.014 --> 01:51:37.002 CR EVANS: It's been moved Councillor Samuel-King, 01:51:37.002 --> 01:51:38.013 seconded Councillor Martin. 01:51:38.013 --> 01:51:40.010 Councillor Samuel-King, you may debate. 01:51:40.010 --> 01:51:43.012 CR SAMUEL-KING: Thank you. 01:51:43.012 --> 01:51:49.016 It's often open space that goes under when we're looking 01:51:49.016 --> 01:51:54.002 for open space. 01:51:56.014 --> 01:52:05.002 We have a tendency to destroy habitat and open space time and time again. 01:52:05.002 --> 01:52:12.021 All we're asking for is the Acting Premier consider what's 01:52:12.021 --> 01:52:16.023 happening in this space and talk to the councils who understand 01:52:16.023 --> 01:52:20.009 what they're really trying to achieve here. 01:52:20.009 --> 01:52:26.007 So I think my understanding is that Mr Mayor, you met 01:52:26.007 --> 01:52:32.004 with the mayors of Glen Eira and the mayor of Kingston yesterday 01:52:32.004 --> 01:52:36.002 and this was agreed to in principle. 01:52:36.002 --> 01:52:40.012 I would like to support our fellow councils 01:52:40.012 --> 01:52:42.023 in starting this dialogue. 01:52:42.023 --> 01:52:45.007 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Samuel-King. 01:52:45.007 --> 01:52:46.020 Councillor Martin. 01:52:46.020 --> 01:52:49.002 CR MARTIN: I support this motion, too. 01:52:49.002 --> 01:52:52.002 Look, I get it, you know, this is - well, 01:52:52.002 --> 01:52:55.011 it's the biggest infrastructure project in Australian history. 01:52:55.011 --> 01:53:01.024 So this is a massive, massive 30 to 40-year project 01:53:01.024 --> 01:53:10.007 and stabling the actual train sets that is a pretty fundamental task. 01:53:10.007 --> 01:53:13.006 Now, just to push something through like this isn't the way 01:53:13.006 --> 01:53:14.019 to go about things. 01:53:14.019 --> 01:53:18.002 You've really got to engage the community, like it says, 01:53:18.002 --> 01:53:20.008 authentically and in detail. 01:53:20.008 --> 01:53:24.004 So you can get that, you know, those really good, 01:53:24.004 --> 01:53:28.002 local grass roots feedback loops happening 01:53:28.002 --> 01:53:31.022 into the suburban rail loop authority. 01:53:31.022 --> 01:53:36.002 The project has got tight timelines and if 01:53:36.002 --> 01:53:39.016 they start this process really early now, they will meet them 01:53:39.016 --> 01:53:41.006 without all of the community acts. 01:53:41.006 --> 01:53:45.023 I'm sure they're going to find ways of doing things that not everyone's 01:53:45.023 --> 01:53:47.010 going to get - like I completely 01:53:47.010 --> 01:53:52.002 agree with Councillor Samuel-King in that, you know, this is going 01:53:52.002 --> 01:53:56.002 to take up open space and in these green wedges that's 01:53:56.002 --> 01:53:57.012 where it is. 01:53:57.012 --> 01:54:01.008 Through these green wedges, and I'm not particularly - I run my eye 01:54:01.008 --> 01:54:02.021 over where this is stationed. 01:54:02.021 --> 01:54:06.017 I think there is adjoining tips where that land is and 01:54:06.017 --> 01:54:09.005 all that sort of stuff. 01:54:09.005 --> 01:54:14.010 You know, there's earmarked, though, for that land use other than 01:54:14.010 --> 01:54:16.016 the stabling of these rail yards. 01:54:16.016 --> 01:54:18.018 But I think this is a good way of going, 01:54:18.018 --> 01:54:22.007 of just really trying to encourage the government and I think 01:54:22.007 --> 01:54:27.004 through the guy that has been supported to run the rail loop authority 01:54:27.004 --> 01:54:31.016 is an incredible engineer, to stop being an engineer and be a bit 01:54:31.016 --> 01:54:35.007 of a human person for a while and do that engagement properly. 01:54:35.007 --> 01:54:37.022 CR EVANS: Thank you, any other councillors? 01:54:37.022 --> 01:54:39.010 There are none. 01:54:39.010 --> 01:54:41.017 Before you close, Councillor Samuel-King, yes, 01:54:41.017 --> 01:54:43.005 you're quite right. 01:54:43.005 --> 01:54:46.002 The mayor of Kingston, Councillor Steve Stakos, 01:54:46.002 --> 01:54:56.018 had a Zoom meeting with myself and mayor of Glen Eira, and pointing 01:54:56.018 --> 01:54:59.022 out that the government, through their agency 01:54:59.022 --> 01:55:05.007 of the suburban rail loop had identified a spot that was part 01:55:05.007 --> 01:55:09.012 of where their chain of parks was going. 01:55:09.012 --> 01:55:13.022 It reminded me a little bit of when the LXRA came 01:55:13.022 --> 01:55:18.022 to this council saying we're going to just do this at Cheltenham station. 01:55:18.022 --> 01:55:23.022 I remember Councillor Martin and myself having a lot of dialogue 01:55:23.022 --> 01:55:28.020 with them to try and - we wanted it to go under rather than over. 01:55:28.020 --> 01:55:33.023 And it took a long time and it took, I think, the, 01:55:33.023 --> 01:55:44.011 it was either Stonnington or Glen Eira to go through with the LXRA and engage 01:55:44.011 --> 01:55:47.018 with them to help them change their mind 01:55:47.018 --> 01:55:52.002 to have dialogue with councils and the community about what 01:55:52.002 --> 01:55:53.022 they are actually doing. 01:55:53.022 --> 01:55:59.005 And so whilst it's an example with the LXRA, this seemed 01:55:59.005 --> 01:56:04.014 to me that the city of Kingston were asking us for support 01:56:04.014 --> 01:56:09.020 for them to get dialogue with the SRL so 01:56:09.020 --> 01:56:14.021 they can put alternative sites rather than the SRL telling them 01:56:14.021 --> 01:56:16.008 where it's going. 01:56:16.008 --> 01:56:23.002 I think the in-support from this council is more dialogue 01:56:23.002 --> 01:56:27.002 from an authority with a local council with that as a principle 01:56:27.002 --> 01:56:30.023 and I think that's the sort of principle that we're asking this 01:56:30.023 --> 01:56:32.010 council to do. 01:56:32.010 --> 01:56:35.002 I'm sure that Glen Eira will have the same thing 01:56:35.002 --> 01:56:37.002 with their council. 01:56:37.002 --> 01:56:39.002 Having said that, Councillor Samuel-King, 01:56:39.002 --> 01:56:40.015 do you wish to close? 01:56:40.015 --> 01:56:42.002 No. 01:56:42.002 --> 01:56:43.015 All those in favour? 01:56:43.015 --> 01:56:45.002 Call for a division. 01:56:45.002 --> 01:56:46.015 All those in favour? 01:56:46.015 --> 01:56:48.018 Councillor Castelli, Councillor del Porto, 01:56:48.018 --> 01:56:50.023 Councillor Martin, Councillor Samuel-King, 01:56:50.023 --> 01:56:52.020 Councillor Stitfold, Councillor Evans. 01:56:52.020 --> 01:56:54.008 It's carried. 01:56:54.008 --> 01:56:56.008 Thank you very much for that, councillors. 01:56:56.008 --> 01:56:57.023 Thank you for your support on that. 01:56:57.023 --> 01:56:59.010 13, notices of motion. 01:56:59.010 --> 01:57:02.014 13.1, notice of motion, 306, community garden, 01:57:02.014 --> 01:57:04.002 Little Brighton Reserve. 01:57:04.002 --> 01:57:05.014 Can I have a mover? 01:57:05.014 --> 01:57:08.014 CR DEL PORTO: Mr Mayor, I would like to move that council allocate 01:57:08.014 --> 01:57:12.004 funding in the 2021-22 budget to design and build a community garden 01:57:12.004 --> 01:57:14.016 at Little Brighton Reserve, Brighton East, subject 01:57:14.016 --> 01:57:16.019 to community consultation being completed 01:57:16.019 --> 01:57:19.007 and a planning permit being approved for the project. 01:57:19.007 --> 01:57:21.011 CR EVANS : Seconded Councillor Samuel-King. 01:57:21.011 --> 01:57:23.002 Councillor del Porto. 01:57:23.002 --> 01:57:24.018 CR DEL PORTO: I would like to say thank 01:57:24.018 --> 01:57:29.012 you to Councillor Samuel-King, because she was the liaison officer, really, 01:57:29.012 --> 01:57:33.009 and introduced me to a couple of residents who lived in my ward 01:57:33.009 --> 01:57:38.005 but I actually didn't know and so they were the ones that approached her 01:57:38.005 --> 01:57:40.024 and said look, you know, a community garden is what we want. 01:57:40.024 --> 01:57:44.009 They've got a petition, which we presented last month. 01:57:44.009 --> 01:57:50.016 I think one of the residents is a retired architect, I think, 01:57:50.016 --> 01:57:52.003 so he had 01:57:52.003 --> 01:57:58.002 the landscape sort of garden-type idea already set up. 01:57:58.002 --> 01:57:59.014 They've requested it. 01:57:59.014 --> 01:58:01.002 So it's a grass roots thing. 01:58:01.002 --> 01:58:03.006 It's not coming from us, it's coming from them. 01:58:03.006 --> 01:58:06.013 It looks to me like there's plenty of people that want to put their - 01:58:06.013 --> 01:58:11.002 roll their sleeves up and work on it once citywide can set it 01:58:11.002 --> 01:58:12.014 up for them. 01:58:12.014 --> 01:58:15.016 I also think it's a great thing, not only from the point of view 01:58:15.016 --> 01:58:20.013 of people mostly retired, you know, meeting each other 01:58:20.013 --> 01:58:23.002 and doing something together, but I think it's a great - 01:58:23.002 --> 01:58:25.012 it will be a great education - a former teacher - 01:58:25.012 --> 01:58:32.009 it will be a great educational tool for the local primary schools which are 01:58:32.009 --> 01:58:35.024 within walking distance for their primary school kids to come 01:58:35.024 --> 01:58:41.006 over on certain days, as an excursion, and just see, you know, 01:58:41.006 --> 01:58:45.003 what people can grow and maybe they could actually 01:58:45.003 --> 01:58:46.016 be directly involved. 01:58:46.016 --> 01:58:49.002 This is just something I'm thinking about. 01:58:49.002 --> 01:58:55.003 So it's actually allows retired people who might not be in contact with a lot 01:58:55.003 --> 01:58:58.007 of young people to actually be able to liaise with them as well. 01:58:58.007 --> 01:59:00.021 So I think all in all, it's a great project. 01:59:00.021 --> 01:59:04.007 It's in the budget now draft budget. 01:59:04.007 --> 01:59:09.008 I'm hoping that we can sort of go right ahead quickly, 01:59:09.008 --> 01:59:12.003 the consultations, and you may require a planning permit, 01:59:12.003 --> 01:59:15.010 like you pointed out to me quite rightly. 01:59:15.010 --> 01:59:16.022 So we'll go from there. 01:59:16.022 --> 01:59:18.010 Thank you. 01:59:18.010 --> 01:59:20.010 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 01:59:20.010 --> 01:59:21.023 Councillor Samuel-King. 01:59:21.023 --> 01:59:24.018 CR SAMUEL-KING: Of interest, social connectedness is one 01:59:24.018 --> 01:59:29.010 of the most important predictors of future health. 01:59:29.010 --> 01:59:32.002 It's more important than cholesterol levels, 01:59:32.002 --> 01:59:36.021 blood sugar levels, high, you know, blood pressure levels. 01:59:36.021 --> 01:59:41.002 Social connectedness is the one key predictor 01:59:41.002 --> 01:59:44.010 of future health and that's been proven time and time 01:59:44.010 --> 01:59:49.018 and time again in very, very robust studies. 01:59:49.018 --> 01:59:52.017 Something like a community garden is a great way 01:59:52.017 --> 01:59:56.002 of facilitating this social connectedness. 01:59:56.002 --> 02:00:00.013 I love the fact that this came from the local residents. 02:00:00.013 --> 02:00:05.001 A petition of 50 people, all resident right there wanting 02:00:05.001 --> 02:00:06.017 this little garden. 02:00:06.017 --> 02:00:11.009 And garden, we are losing gardens wherever we turn. 02:00:11.009 --> 02:00:13.023 Where have the butterflies gone? 02:00:13.023 --> 02:00:15.016 Where have the butterflies gone? 02:00:15.016 --> 02:00:17.019 We forget, they've gone. 02:00:17.019 --> 02:00:21.006 Occasionally we see them, we see the white cabbage moths 02:00:21.006 --> 02:00:26.006 but flowers and vegetables, even if they get eaten by caterpillars, 02:00:26.006 --> 02:00:28.003 at least you get butterflies. 02:00:28.003 --> 02:00:31.014 So I'm really looking forward to seeing a little garden 02:00:31.014 --> 02:00:35.000 and a little community to be able to get together here and I'm very, 02:00:35.000 --> 02:00:36.024 very happy to support this. 02:00:36.024 --> 02:00:38.011 CR EVANS: Thank you. 02:00:38.011 --> 02:00:40.023 Any other councillors? 02:00:40.023 --> 02:00:44.023 Before you close, Councillor del Porto, yes, I think it's a great thing. 02:00:44.023 --> 02:00:50.000 I think that one of the saddest things that happened to me or happened 02:00:50.000 --> 02:00:56.016 to the council was where the Rotary Club of Sandringham did a community 02:00:56.016 --> 02:01:01.020 garden at the back of Tulip Street there 02:01:01.020 --> 02:01:04.019 and very successful until a neighbour complained 02:01:04.019 --> 02:01:08.023 and took it to VCAT and then that's why we had 02:01:08.023 --> 02:01:12.008 to then get a planning permit for it. 02:01:12.008 --> 02:01:15.008 And that's why I've asked you to put in there 02:01:15.008 --> 02:01:19.018 to make sure there's a planning permit is obtained. 02:01:19.018 --> 02:01:24.002 And so it's been delayed at the moment while we get 02:01:24.002 --> 02:01:25.013 a planning permit. 02:01:25.013 --> 02:01:32.014 But the joy that people get from that experience, little plots, 02:01:32.014 --> 02:01:36.011 going up there, watering them and the joy - I think 02:01:36.011 --> 02:01:39.017 they sold something like about 200 plots 02:01:39.017 --> 02:01:43.003 and the joy was absolutely phenomenal. 02:01:43.003 --> 02:01:45.011 Now, having this - that was from the Rotary Club. 02:01:45.011 --> 02:01:49.003 Having this from the residents themselves I think 02:01:49.003 --> 02:01:50.016 is even better. 02:01:50.016 --> 02:01:52.008 So I fully support it. 02:01:52.008 --> 02:01:53.020 Thank you. 02:01:53.020 --> 02:01:55.008 You wish to close? 02:01:55.008 --> 02:01:57.018 CR DEL PORTO: I want to say thank you for pointing out 02:01:57.018 --> 02:02:00.005 about the planning permit because it actually hadn't 02:02:00.005 --> 02:02:01.018 crossed my mind. 02:02:01.018 --> 02:02:03.024 But you've got that experience already from it. 02:02:03.024 --> 02:02:05.023 So, look, I think Councillor Samuel-King 02:02:05.023 --> 02:02:09.006 put it much better than me, being a doctor, about, you know, 02:02:09.006 --> 02:02:12.022 the social connection and so I'm looking forward 02:02:12.022 --> 02:02:15.002 to us going ahead with it. 02:02:15.002 --> 02:02:17.021 It's a very interesting little reserve. 02:02:17.021 --> 02:02:22.018 It's got some beautiful gum trees that have been there a long, long time. 02:02:22.018 --> 02:02:24.023 Some of them maybe significant trees. 02:02:24.023 --> 02:02:30.008 It's got a lovely little yellow golden path that's been designed 02:02:30.008 --> 02:02:32.002 to save vegetation. 02:02:32.002 --> 02:02:33.014 It took us two years. 02:02:33.014 --> 02:02:35.002 CR EVANS: I remember that. 02:02:35.002 --> 02:02:38.006 CR DEL PORTO: It took us two years because they were going to go through 02:02:38.006 --> 02:02:39.019 and get rid of a number of trees. 02:02:39.019 --> 02:02:44.002 We were able to do a swerve here and there and save several major trees 02:02:44.002 --> 02:02:47.009 and now it's got a little playground and may have a community garden 02:02:47.009 --> 02:02:48.024 as well so it may be really nice. 02:02:48.024 --> 02:02:51.002 CR EVANS: All those in favour? 02:02:51.002 --> 02:02:52.014 Against? 02:02:52.014 --> 02:02:55.015 Carried. 02:02:55.015 --> 02:02:58.022 Notice of motion, 307, Landcox Park Lake. 02:02:58.022 --> 02:03:00.009 Can I have a mover? 02:03:00.009 --> 02:03:01.023 Councillor del Porto. 02:03:01.023 --> 02:03:04.021 CR DEL PORTO: I would like to move that council receive a report 02:03:04.021 --> 02:03:09.019 at the May 2021 council meeting detailing the need, timeframe and cost 02:03:09.019 --> 02:03:12.013 to improve the water quality of the Landcox Park Lake. 02:03:12.013 --> 02:03:14.002 CR EVANS: Have a seconder? 02:03:14.002 --> 02:03:15.016 Seconded Councillor Samuel-King. 02:03:15.016 --> 02:03:17.004 Councillor del Porto. 02:03:17.004 --> 02:03:18.016 CR DEL PORTO: Thank you for that. 02:03:18.016 --> 02:03:21.018 I visit the park several times a week. 02:03:23.024 --> 02:03:25.024 I thank Councillor Samuel-King again. 02:03:25.024 --> 02:03:31.023 I met a couple of other residents, or one resident with her who 02:03:31.023 --> 02:03:40.008 is a very keen, passionate patron of the park and she rocks up there 02:03:40.008 --> 02:03:41.021 before I do. 02:03:41.021 --> 02:03:45.009 I get there about 9:00, 10:00, I think she gets there early so 02:03:45.009 --> 02:03:49.004 she can see possibly behaviour that I don't see. 02:03:49.004 --> 02:03:53.002 She had an issue about dogs off leash, which I understand as well. 02:03:53.002 --> 02:03:56.002 But as I said in my little preamble here, 02:03:56.002 --> 02:04:00.010 we've already had issues once before with the lake in early 2000, 02:04:00.010 --> 02:04:04.019 blue algae made the lake toxic. 02:04:04.019 --> 02:04:09.011 So in the end it cost a lot of money, we had to dredge the whole thing, 02:04:09.011 --> 02:04:14.016 there was a lot of sludge and a lot of bird poo at the bottom, nutrients. 02:04:14.016 --> 02:04:16.020 Had to be cleared up. 02:04:16.020 --> 02:04:20.020 The lake is now getting cloudy again so I 02:04:20.020 --> 02:04:22.018 don't know the cause of it and I don't know 02:04:22.018 --> 02:04:24.022 whether it's the same issue. 02:04:24.022 --> 02:04:30.011 I don't know whether it's the fact there are some huge carps and goldfish, 02:04:30.011 --> 02:04:32.023 they are huge and scary looking. 02:04:32.023 --> 02:04:34.021 They are about that big. 02:04:34.021 --> 02:04:37.012 I know it sounds like "Oh, the one I missed." 02:04:37.012 --> 02:04:39.002 But have a look. 02:04:39.002 --> 02:04:41.015 They actually bite the ducks. 02:04:41.015 --> 02:04:44.024 So I mean that could have something to do with the cloudiness of the water, 02:04:44.024 --> 02:04:46.012 I don't know. 02:04:46.012 --> 02:04:49.024 But it's left open for officers to come back with options and they 02:04:49.024 --> 02:04:51.020 will tell us how to go forward. 02:04:51.020 --> 02:04:54.012 So, again, thank you, Councillor Samuel-King, for that. 02:04:54.012 --> 02:04:56.012 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor del Porto. 02:04:56.012 --> 02:04:58.002 Councillor Samuel-King. 02:04:58.002 --> 02:05:01.018 CR SAMUEL-KING: Landcox Park Lake is really interesting. 02:05:01.018 --> 02:05:06.009 It was actually this resident who alerted council, 02:05:06.009 --> 02:05:11.007 Bayside City Council, to the issue of water not getting into the lake 02:05:11.007 --> 02:05:16.003 and I think we've managed to get water into the lake and what we've seen 02:05:16.003 --> 02:05:19.004 since we've done that, is it has become a little bit 02:05:19.004 --> 02:05:22.007 of an important breeding ground for water birds. 02:05:22.007 --> 02:05:25.009 So the white-faced Heron have successfully bred 02:05:25.009 --> 02:05:26.021 there this year. 02:05:26.021 --> 02:05:32.003 The Nanking night Heron that is a listed species has 02:05:32.003 --> 02:05:35.006 been sighted there, particularly a breeding male. 02:05:35.006 --> 02:05:41.011 There have been some successful ducklings that have made it 02:05:41.011 --> 02:05:43.002 through to maturity. 02:05:43.002 --> 02:05:48.003 They do - they are under threat - there are two issues, really, I see 02:05:48.003 --> 02:05:49.016 with that lake. 02:05:49.016 --> 02:05:52.024 One is the dogs getting straight into the lake, and I've got photographs 02:05:52.024 --> 02:05:56.006 of that going right where the Nanking night Heron likes to be. 02:05:56.006 --> 02:05:57.019 Very difficult issue. 02:05:57.019 --> 02:05:59.020 But there's also water quality. 02:05:59.020 --> 02:06:03.024 There are carp and carp really make it - when 02:06:03.024 --> 02:06:10.005 they are there - El Mouallem useless from a marine 02:06:10.005 --> 02:06:12.002 aquatic environment perspective. 02:06:12.002 --> 02:06:17.002 If we could potentially get those carp out that could make a huge difference. 02:06:17.002 --> 02:06:23.002 Carp also make the water very brown and murky and unpleasant. 02:06:23.002 --> 02:06:27.013 So I would be really interested to look at the latest research 02:06:27.013 --> 02:06:29.002 on what can be done. 02:06:29.002 --> 02:06:32.002 I have actually spoken to a marine ecologist, that's his job, 02:06:32.002 --> 02:06:34.002 and it certainly can be done. 02:06:34.002 --> 02:06:41.002 I'd also like to have a look at perhaps all of our freshwater water bodies 02:06:41.002 --> 02:06:46.004 and see what might be good to increase the amenity 02:06:46.004 --> 02:06:52.024 of those freshwater water bodies and also their usefulness 02:06:52.024 --> 02:06:55.017 from a habitat and biodiversity perspective. 02:06:55.017 --> 02:06:58.008 So I very much look forward to seeing the report. 02:06:58.008 --> 02:06:59.021 CR EVANS: Thank you very much. 02:06:59.021 --> 02:07:01.019 Any other councillors? 02:07:01.019 --> 02:07:03.016 Councillor del Porto, you wish to close? 02:07:03.016 --> 02:07:05.021 CR DEL PORTO: I won't bore you too much but I have 02:07:05.021 --> 02:07:09.005 to tell you that Landcox Park is actually just part 02:07:09.005 --> 02:07:14.023 of a bigger garden that used to belong to Landcox House, which 02:07:14.023 --> 02:07:17.019 is now the Buddhist centre. 02:07:17.019 --> 02:07:21.004 Landcox House was built by the Weir family, Weir Street, 02:07:21.004 --> 02:07:22.017 in 1854. 02:07:22.017 --> 02:07:27.022 It was actually the very first big Brighton mansion where people used 02:07:27.022 --> 02:07:30.024 to host their parties and then they'd have 02:07:30.024 --> 02:07:35.006 all the Irish workers working, living in little cottages alongside 02:07:35.006 --> 02:07:36.020 the creek there. 02:07:36.020 --> 02:07:39.016 So it's an interesting park. 02:07:39.016 --> 02:07:42.015 It's got some beautiful red gum trees and, in fact, 02:07:42.015 --> 02:07:44.021 I've encouraged councillors to walk around it. 02:07:44.021 --> 02:07:47.024 There's magnificent red gum just beside the lake. 02:07:47.024 --> 02:07:51.004 It's also got some European trees from hundred something years ago 02:07:51.004 --> 02:07:58.019 established and a cluster of red gums closer to Milray Street. 02:07:58.019 --> 02:08:03.011 So it's a bit of a mystery of a park and it's got a playground which is 02:08:03.011 --> 02:08:05.004 about to be rebuilt so I'm looking 02:08:05.004 --> 02:08:06.017 forward to that. 02:08:06.017 --> 02:08:09.014 I think the lake probably makes it the most beautiful - 02:08:09.014 --> 02:08:11.022 and I know I'm going to get told, the most beautiful 02:08:11.022 --> 02:08:14.015 of our parks that we have in Bayside. 02:08:14.015 --> 02:08:16.003 Thank you. 02:08:16.003 --> 02:08:17.019 CR EVANS: There will be debate on it. 02:08:17.019 --> 02:08:19.006 All those in favour? 02:08:19.006 --> 02:08:20.019 Against? 02:08:20.019 --> 02:08:22.006 Carried. 02:08:22.006 --> 02:08:24.014 13.3, notice of motion, 308, Gray-headed 02:08:24.014 --> 02:08:26.008 flying fox protection measures. 02:08:26.008 --> 02:08:28.002 Can I have a mover? 02:08:28.002 --> 02:08:29.014 Moved Councillor Samuel-King. 02:08:29.014 --> 02:08:31.003 Seconded Councillor del Porto. 02:08:31.003 --> 02:08:33.014 Councillor Samuel-King. 02:08:33.014 --> 02:08:36.002 CR SAMUEL-KING : Do you have the photographs, please? 02:08:43.003 --> 02:08:48.011 This notice of motion is, for a start, about these little creatures, 02:08:48.011 --> 02:08:49.024 the grey-headed flying fox. 02:08:54.009 --> 02:08:59.008 They're intelligent, they're sociable, they're beautiful. 02:08:59.008 --> 02:09:03.002 The difference is we don't really understand them or 02:09:03.002 --> 02:09:07.011 know them because they're wild and they fly at night. 02:09:07.011 --> 02:09:09.023 They visit Bayside. 02:09:09.023 --> 02:09:12.020 They don't live here and I suppose I like the symbolism 02:09:12.020 --> 02:09:15.020 of this that we're looking after our visitors as well 02:09:15.020 --> 02:09:19.006 as our ratepayers and residents. 02:09:19.006 --> 02:09:24.002 They are listed as threatened and are facing extinction 02:09:24.002 --> 02:09:27.022 from four processes, climate change. 02:09:27.022 --> 02:09:31.002 They've been falling out of the trees dead 02:09:31.002 --> 02:09:33.007 with our heatwaves. 02:09:33.007 --> 02:09:36.021 Habitat destruction, they've been losing their forests 02:09:39.008 --> 02:09:44.015 particularly right far north and right down eastern board and so they've found 02:09:44.015 --> 02:09:48.002 some refuge in our cities. 02:09:48.002 --> 02:09:52.019 But in our cities they find new threats. 02:09:52.019 --> 02:09:56.002 Fruit netting and barbed wire, and this motion is 02:09:56.002 --> 02:10:00.012 about just removing one of their threats, barbed wire. 02:10:00.012 --> 02:10:03.020 We do have barbed wire in Bayside and we have plenty of it 02:10:03.020 --> 02:10:06.016 in reserves next slide, please. 02:10:06.016 --> 02:10:10.019 But it's not only about grey-headed flying fox. 02:10:10.019 --> 02:10:13.013 These guys, the tawny frog mouths find their home 02:10:13.013 --> 02:10:16.018 in Bayside and they also get tangled up. 02:10:16.018 --> 02:10:21.021 Now I do make a statement, please close your eyes if you - 02:10:21.021 --> 02:10:25.007 because the next couple of slides are distressing. 02:10:25.007 --> 02:10:29.020 So this is a grey-headed flying fox that died 02:10:29.020 --> 02:10:34.021 as it found itself caught in barbed wire and the next one. 02:10:34.021 --> 02:10:40.003 This little one was found in Bayside and had its wing injured and may need 02:10:40.003 --> 02:10:41.016 to be euthanased. 02:10:41.016 --> 02:10:46.000 So it's a really small little thing that we can do to help our visitors. 02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:49.004 Just to have a think about what we're doing with barbed wire 02:10:49.004 --> 02:10:51.015 and if we don't need it, take it down. 02:10:51.015 --> 02:10:55.023 If it has to stay, it just needs to be made visible. 02:10:55.023 --> 02:11:00.015 So that's all I'm asking and also that maybe when we plant trees 02:11:00.015 --> 02:11:04.003 we could consider our visitors and plant trees that these 02:11:04.003 --> 02:11:06.011 guys can enjoy. 02:11:06.011 --> 02:11:07.024 Thank you. 02:11:07.024 --> 02:11:10.003 CR EVANS: Thank you, Councillor Samuel-King. 02:11:10.003 --> 02:11:11.016 Councillor del Porto. 02:11:11.016 --> 02:11:14.010 CR DEL PORTO: Yeah, look, again, I support this completely. 02:11:14.010 --> 02:11:18.002 They are listed nationally as a vulnerable species. 02:11:18.002 --> 02:11:21.013 When Councillor Samuel-King pointed out to me that they're getting caught 02:11:21.013 --> 02:11:25.006 on barbed wire and some of it belongs to council I thought surely 02:11:25.006 --> 02:11:27.007 we can change that. 02:11:27.007 --> 02:11:28.019 There's other issues as well. 02:11:28.019 --> 02:11:30.007 I think netting. 02:11:30.007 --> 02:11:33.019 I think people cover fruit trees because they don't want them eaten 02:11:33.019 --> 02:11:37.019 and I think one of the animals that they end up sort of catching, 02:11:37.019 --> 02:11:43.004 unintentionally, are also possibly grey-headed 02:11:43.004 --> 02:11:45.011 flying foxes, definitely some bats. 02:11:45.011 --> 02:11:47.004 So I think that's something to look at. 02:11:47.004 --> 02:11:50.008 And the other issue that Councillor Samuel-King 02:11:50.008 --> 02:11:54.002 pointed out in her motion is that we are actually going to be 02:11:54.002 --> 02:11:58.004 able to tell other councils of this motion and go ahead 02:11:58.004 --> 02:12:00.009 and ask them to do something similar. 02:12:00.009 --> 02:12:04.021 It's not going to cost that much money to sort of advocate on behalf 02:12:04.021 --> 02:12:09.002 of this council with, say, Elsternwick Primary School 02:12:09.002 --> 02:12:11.020 if they've got fencing that could be changed, 02:12:11.020 --> 02:12:13.022 our own fencing can be looked at. 02:12:13.022 --> 02:12:19.020 Maybe something in Bayside, some sort of communication about what we would 02:12:19.020 --> 02:12:25.003 like property owners to do sometimes about protecting their trees. 02:12:25.003 --> 02:12:28.006 So I think there's a bit to be done that it's not 02:12:28.006 --> 02:12:31.003 going to be expensive but it's going to be a good thing 02:12:31.003 --> 02:12:33.002 for these animals. 02:12:33.002 --> 02:12:34.020 So very much support it. 02:12:34.020 --> 02:12:36.007 CR EVANS: Thank you very much. 02:12:36.007 --> 02:12:38.002 Any other councillors? 02:12:38.002 --> 02:12:44.011 Before you close, I see the part of that is that the mayor writes 02:12:44.011 --> 02:12:45.024 to other councils. 02:12:45.024 --> 02:12:47.011 I will be delighted to do that. 02:12:47.011 --> 02:12:51.002 I think that's one of the things that there was 02:12:51.002 --> 02:12:55.005 a substation down in Beauie that had barbed wire on it 02:12:55.005 --> 02:12:58.019 and it was owned by South East Water. 02:12:58.019 --> 02:13:03.006 We approached South East Water to get that barbed wire off 02:13:03.006 --> 02:13:05.024 and I think Councillor Martin was involved in that. 02:13:05.024 --> 02:13:11.011 Both he and I were advocates to get that off but I take the point 02:13:11.011 --> 02:13:16.012 that we've just got to get it off our own properties. 02:13:16.012 --> 02:13:20.002 Very happy to, subject to this being approved, 02:13:20.002 --> 02:13:25.009 which I'm sure it will be, to write to other councils and organisations. 02:13:25.009 --> 02:13:30.009 So once this is done, those letters will go off. 02:13:30.009 --> 02:13:32.011 You wish to close, Councillor Samuel-King? 02:13:32.011 --> 02:13:33.023 CR SAMUEL-KING: I would. 02:13:33.023 --> 02:13:35.022 I would like to credit the first beautiful 02:13:35.022 --> 02:13:41.024 photograph to Doug Kimsey, a renowned conservation photographer. 02:13:44.019 --> 02:13:51.011 He was also involved in the banning of the Opera House nets that were 02:13:51.011 --> 02:13:55.023 killing platypus all up the eastern border of Australia. 02:13:55.023 --> 02:14:00.002 And I think particularly drafting a policy means that this 02:14:00.002 --> 02:14:05.021 will not just be something for Bayside, but something that can be - 02:14:05.021 --> 02:14:08.014 we can be leaders so that hopefully these kind 02:14:08.014 --> 02:14:12.009 of policies can come right through the grey-headed 02:14:12.009 --> 02:14:16.013 flying fox territory and hopefully prevent many, 02:14:16.013 --> 02:14:21.006 many little grey-headed flying fox from a terrible and untimely death. 02:14:21.006 --> 02:14:22.019 Thank you. 02:14:22.019 --> 02:14:24.016 CR EVANS: All those in favour? 02:14:24.016 --> 02:14:26.006 Division has been called. 02:14:26.006 --> 02:14:28.010 Councillor Castelli, Councillor del Porto, 02:14:28.010 --> 02:14:30.014 Councillor Martin, Councillor Samuel-King, 02:14:30.014 --> 02:14:32.012 Councillor Stitfold, Councillor Evans. 02:14:32.012 --> 02:14:34.015 It's carried unanimously. 02:14:34.015 --> 02:14:36.002 Thank you. 02:14:36.002 --> 02:14:37.015 Confidential business. 02:14:37.015 --> 02:14:40.015 May I have a motion that the remainder of the meeting be dealt with 02:14:40.015 --> 02:14:43.002 in camera given the item for consideration relates 02:14:43.002 --> 02:14:47.018 to the confidential matter in accordance with section 66 (2) A 02:14:47.018 --> 02:14:50.020 of the Local Government Act 2020 and pursuant 02:14:50.020 --> 02:14:59.008 to sections 3 (1) (F) As it concerns personal information being information 02:14:59.008 --> 02:15:00.022 which if released would result 02:15:00.022 --> 02:15:04.020 in the unreasonable disclosure about any person or 02:15:04.020 --> 02:15:06.021 their personal affairs. 02:15:06.021 --> 02:15:08.008 Moved Councillor Martin. 02:15:08.008 --> 02:15:10.002 Seconded Councillor del Porto. 02:15:10.002 --> 02:15:11.019 All those in favour? 02:15:11.019 --> 02:15:13.006 Against? 02:15:13.006 --> 02:15:14.019 Carried. 02:15:14.019 --> 02:15:17.008 Council has resolved to close the meeting to the public 02:15:17.008 --> 02:15:20.013 at this stage to deal with an item of a confidential nature. 02:15:20.013 --> 02:15:23.007 Good evening, and thank you for following the web streaming 02:15:23.007 --> 02:15:25.002 of the council meeting tonight. 02:15:25.002 --> 02:15:27.018 Officer, please switch off the web casting.