WEBVTT 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:02.615 Councellors, council officers, members of 00:00:02.639 --> 00:00:04.376 the public gallery and the broader 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:06.536 community following the meeting via live 00:00:06.560 --> 00:00:08.136 streaming. 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:11.160 Welcome to the 29th of July 2025 council 00:00:11.200 --> 00:00:12.936 meeting. 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:14.615 This meeting is being recorded and 00:00:14.639 --> 00:00:16.536 streamed live on the internet to enhance 00:00:16.560 --> 00:00:19.095 the accessibility of council meetings to 00:00:19.119 --> 00:00:21.656 the broader Bayside community. 00:00:21.680 --> 00:00:23.335 The recordings are archived and 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:26.296 available on council's website. 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:28.376 All care is taken to maintain your 00:00:28.400 --> 00:00:29.816 privacy. 00:00:29.840 --> 00:00:31.575 However, as a visitor in the public 00:00:31.599 --> 00:00:34.599 gallery, your presence may be recorded. 00:00:35.760 --> 00:00:37.656 In accordance with council's governance 00:00:37.680 --> 00:00:40.456 rules, members of the community were 00:00:40.480 --> 00:00:42.375 afforded the opportunity to provide a 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:45.336 written statement or request to speak in 00:00:45.360 --> 00:00:47.496 relation to eligible agenda items for 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:50.055 tonight's meeting. 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:51.656 A copy of the written statements 00:00:51.680 --> 00:00:53.576 received was distributed to all 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:56.136 councellors yesterday and has been 00:00:56.160 --> 00:00:58.055 published as an attachment to the agenda 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:01.079 on council's website. 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:03.816 A reminder also to Councellors, officers, 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:06.376 and members of the public gallery to 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.056 check that your mobile phones are 00:01:08.080 --> 00:01:10.455 switched off or placed on silent during 00:01:10.479 --> 00:01:12.856 the meeting. 00:01:12.880 --> 00:01:14.775 Councellors, members of the gallery and 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.016 members of the community following via 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.976 live streaming. I wish to advise we are 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:21.576 about to read the prayer and 00:01:21.600 --> 00:01:23.976 acknowledgement of country. 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:25.976 For anyone not wishing to be present in 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:27.896 the chamber or to follow the live 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:30.296 streaming for the reading of the prayer 00:01:30.320 --> 00:01:32.696 and acknowledgement of country, there 00:01:32.720 --> 00:01:34.936 will be approximately 10 seconds for the 00:01:34.960 --> 00:01:37.256 reading of the prayer and 10 seconds for 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.656 the acknowledgement of country. 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:41.256 You will be advised when this has 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:43.256 concluded. 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:45.576 In addition, a message will appear on 00:01:45.600 --> 00:01:47.576 the screen to indicate when to rejoin 00:01:47.600 --> 00:01:49.336 the meeting. 00:01:49.360 --> 00:01:51.095 Thank you for your understanding in this 00:01:51.119 --> 00:01:54.119 matter. 00:01:54.399 --> 00:01:55.816 Moving to the prayer, I would like now 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:57.656 to invite the CEO, Mr. Cribs, to read 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:00.055 the prayer. 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.536 Oh God, bless this city Bayside. Give us 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.455 courage, strength, and wisdom so that 00:02:04.479 --> 00:02:06.296 our deliberations may be for the good of 00:02:06.320 --> 00:02:06.775 all. Amen 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.176 Also would like to invite Mr. 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:10.616 Cribs to read the acknowledgement of 00:02:10.640 --> 00:02:11.896 country. 00:02:11.920 --> 00:02:13.416 Bayside City Council proudly 00:02:13.440 --> 00:02:14.855 acknowledges the Bunurong People of the 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:16.855 Kulin Nation as the traditional owners 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:18.776 and custodians of this land. We pay our 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:20.776 respects to their Elders, past, present, 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:22.935 and emerging, as well as any Aboriginal 00:02:22.959 --> 00:02:24.776 or Torres Strait Islander community members 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:25.816 with us today. 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:28.840 Thank you. 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:31.816 Officers, please invite any individuals 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:34.056 to return to the chamber and indicate 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.616 for the live stream that we will now be 00:02:36.640 --> 00:02:38.136 continuing with the business on the 00:02:38.160 --> 00:02:41.160 agenda. 00:02:43.519 --> 00:02:45.416 We are moving to item three. I 00:02:45.440 --> 00:02:47.016 understand there are apologies from 00:02:47.040 --> 00:02:49.176 councellor Murray and councellor McIntosh 00:02:49.200 --> 00:02:51.896 Can I have a mover and a second please? 00:02:51.920 --> 00:02:53.575 Thank you councellor Hockley and a 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:55.336 second. Thank you, councellor Taylor 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.575 Haynes. And I'll put it to a vote. All 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:59.976 those in favor councellor Taylor Haynes, 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.456 councellor Irlicht, councellor Leigh, councellor 00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:05.016 Hockley, councellor against none and it 00:03:05.040 --> 00:03:07.336 is carried. 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.176 Councellors, we're moving to item four, 00:03:09.200 --> 00:03:11.016 declarations of a conflict of interest. 00:03:11.040 --> 00:03:12.935 Are there any declaration of conflict of 00:03:12.959 --> 00:03:15.575 interest? I don't see any hands up. 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:18.376 Thank you. Moving to item five, adoption 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:20.056 and confirmation of the minutes of the 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:23.080 previous meetings. and 5.1 confirmation 00:03:23.440 --> 00:03:24.935 of the minutes of the Bayside City 00:03:24.959 --> 00:03:27.736 Council meeting held on the 17th of June 00:03:27.760 --> 00:03:29.816 2025. And can I have a mover and a 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:32.616 second please? Thank you councellor Leigh 00:03:32.640 --> 00:03:34.456 as a mover and seconded by councellor 00:03:34.480 --> 00:03:36.935 Hockley. I'll put it to vote. All those 00:03:36.959 --> 00:03:39.176 in favor councellor Taylor Haynes 00:03:39.200 --> 00:03:41.176 councellor councellor Leigh councellor 00:03:41.200 --> 00:03:43.976 Hockley councellor El Mouallen against none and 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.000 it is carried. 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:49.976 Moving to section six, public question 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:52.775 time. In accordance with council's 00:03:52.799 --> 00:03:54.376 governance rules, there will be a 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:56.536 maximum of 15 minutes allocated for 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:59.415 public question time. The questions and 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:01.336 responses read out during this time will 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:03.816 be published in the minutes. All 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:05.816 questions, even those not read out in 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:07.816 the allocated time, will be responded to 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:09.656 in writing. 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:11.336 No more than two questions with a 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:13.336 maximum of two parts to each question 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.055 are permitted per individual. 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:17.816 The reading of each question will be 00:04:17.840 --> 00:04:20.536 limited to the question only. Any 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:22.376 permeable will not be read out unless 00:04:22.400 --> 00:04:25.175 required for clarity. It should also be 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:28.199 noted that on occasion the CEO or Mayor 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.936 may determine to redact or disallow a 00:04:30.960 --> 00:04:33.256 question on the basis that it does not 00:04:33.280 --> 00:04:35.816 comply with council's governance rules. 00:04:35.840 --> 00:04:37.656 There were two public questions received 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:39.416 tonight and the first question is from 00:04:39.440 --> 00:04:41.816 Mr. Gavin McMullen and he submitted 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:43.656 the question related to dog on leash 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.296 restrictions proposed between by Beaumaris 00:04:46.320 --> 00:04:49.175 life saving club and Algati road and Mr. 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:52.199 McMullen asked question in relation to 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:54.376 the proposal to change the current off 00:04:54.400 --> 00:04:56.776 leash restrictions for Watkins Bay 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:58.696 between Beaumaris life-saving club and 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:01.720 Elgati road to be permanently on leash 00:05:01.919 --> 00:05:04.856 even during winter. Why are we going 00:05:04.880 --> 00:05:06.696 against advice of the extensive 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:08.696 community consultation 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:11.015 and what was the purpose of this 00:05:11.039 --> 00:05:12.936 exercise if council is not going to 00:05:12.960 --> 00:05:15.895 listen? Response from the CEO. 00:05:15.919 --> 00:05:17.816 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. An extensive 00:05:17.840 --> 00:05:19.496 community engagement process has been 00:05:19.520 --> 00:05:21.656 undertaken to inform the review of the 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:23.976 current off leash restrictions. The 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:26.056 consultation demonstrated a wide range 00:05:26.080 --> 00:05:28.376 of community views regarding the 00:05:28.400 --> 00:05:31.400 tightening or reducing of on leash dog 00:05:31.440 --> 00:05:33.576 restrictions. Council will consider 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.256 community feedback and the proposed 00:05:35.280 --> 00:05:38.216 restrictions at its meeting on 19 August 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:39.656 2025. 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:41.576 Thank you, Mr. CEO. Question number two 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:43.976 from Miss Michelle Bentley submitted the 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.216 question related to council's proposed 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.175 warm water pool project and Miss Bentley 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:51.735 asked. Question council is currently 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:53.576 investigating the possibility of a 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.600 temporary above ground warm water pool. 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:58.936 Part one, how will the water be heated 00:05:58.960 --> 00:06:01.496 to a minimum of 34° 00:06:01.520 --> 00:06:03.416 and how will the ambient temperature be 00:06:03.440 --> 00:06:06.440 heated to a minimum of 28°? 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.336 And part two, how much will this type of 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.416 temporary facility cost? Response from 00:06:11.440 --> 00:06:13.096 the CEO. 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:14.696 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, council is 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:15.816 currently investigating the 00:06:15.840 --> 00:06:17.496 possibilities of a temporary above 00:06:17.520 --> 00:06:20.520 ground warm water pool. Sorry, and a 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:23.895 modular pool on the market to prepare a 00:06:23.919 --> 00:06:25.416 number of options to be presented to 00:06:25.440 --> 00:06:27.816 council. The list will include all 00:06:27.840 --> 00:06:29.576 relevant information required including 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.496 the type of pool, method of heating and 00:06:31.520 --> 00:06:33.256 costs associated with the installation, 00:06:33.280 --> 00:06:34.615 maintenance and operation of each 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:37.256 product. Thank you. That concludes 00:06:37.280 --> 00:06:39.416 public question time. The questions and 00:06:39.440 --> 00:06:41.735 responses read out will be published in 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:43.735 the minutes and be responded to in 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.376 writing. 00:06:46.400 --> 00:06:48.376 Moving to section seven, petitions to 00:06:48.400 --> 00:06:51.015 council and petition for council to 00:06:51.039 --> 00:06:53.015 reinstate our planet into council's 00:06:53.039 --> 00:06:54.615 budget. And Councellors, do I have a 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.639 mover and a seconder? 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:59.336 I need a mover. Thank you, councellor 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:01.895 Hockley and a seconder. Thank you, 00:07:01.919 --> 00:07:04.455 councellor Leigh. I'll put it the vote 00:07:04.479 --> 00:07:07.175 those in favor. councellor Taylor Haynes, 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:08.455 councellor Elliot, councellor Leigh, 00:07:08.479 --> 00:07:10.216 councellor Hockley, councellor El Mouallen 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:13.240 against none and it is carried. 00:07:14.080 --> 00:07:16.376 Section 8, minutes of advisory 00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:19.015 committees 8.1, records of meetings held 00:07:19.039 --> 00:07:21.735 under the opices of council. They have a 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:23.416 mover. 00:07:23.440 --> 00:07:25.256 Thank you, councellor Leigh. And the second 00:07:25.280 --> 00:07:27.976 councellor Taylor Haynes. I'll put it to 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.376 vote. All those in favor? councellor 00:07:30.400 --> 00:07:32.376 Taylor Haynes, councellor Irlicht, councellor Leigh, 00:07:32.400 --> 00:07:34.696 councellor Hockley, councellor El Mouallen 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.720 against none. And it is carried. 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.455 Moving to 8.2 minutes of the Bayside 00:07:42.479 --> 00:07:44.216 Arts and Gallery Advisory Committee 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.240 meeting held on the 18th of June, 2025. 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:48.936 And I need a mover and a second 00:07:48.960 --> 00:07:51.175 councellors. Thank you councellor Taylor 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.199 Haynes and a second by councellor Leigh. 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.175 Put it to vote. All those in favor 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.015 councellor Taylor hands councellor Elliot 00:07:59.039 --> 00:08:00.776 councellor Leigh councellor Hockley 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.496 councellor El Mouallen against none and it is 00:08:03.520 --> 00:08:06.216 carried. 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.615 Moving to section nine reports by 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.175 special committees and there were no 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:14.199 reports by special committees. 00:08:14.479 --> 00:08:16.056 At this point, I would like to mention 00:08:16.080 --> 00:08:18.536 that some members of the community may 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.776 have noticed a change to the ordering of 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:23.256 sections within the agenda. 00:08:23.280 --> 00:08:25.096 I can advise that the ordering of the 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:26.776 business on the agenda is at the 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.735 discretion of the CEO and that following 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:32.056 some feedback from Councellors, the CEO, 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:35.080 Mr. Crips, has determined to reorder the 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.976 sections on the agenda at this and 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:39.976 future council meetings so that urgent 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:43.000 business is considered at section 10. 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.016 Notices of motion are considered at 00:08:45.040 --> 00:08:47.976 section 11 and subsequent renumbering of 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.216 the remaining existing sections of the 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:53.176 agenda. So with that Councellors, we move 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.200 to section 10 urgent business. And there 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.616 were no items of urgent business for 00:08:58.640 --> 00:09:01.416 tonight. 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:03.416 Now we are moving to section 11 and 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:06.440 that's notices of motion and 11.1 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.495 notice of motion 347 state government 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.736 planning reform. councellor Leigh, do you 00:09:11.760 --> 00:09:13.495 wish to move your notice of motion? 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:13.976 Yes. 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:15.656 Thank you, councellor Leigh. And I have a 00:09:15.680 --> 00:09:17.416 second for Council Leigh. Thank you, 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.440 councellor Taylor. Hands. councellor Leigh. 00:09:26.880 --> 00:09:29.736 Thank you. 00:09:29.760 --> 00:09:32.056 Just put on your microphone, please. 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:33.656 Council, 00:09:33.680 --> 00:09:35.096 thank you so much. 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:36.456 Thank you. Thank you for the 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:38.216 opportunity. Firstly, can I say I'm glad 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.016 we've moved to this to this time because 00:09:41.040 --> 00:09:43.896 when we had the the warm water pool 00:09:43.920 --> 00:09:46.536 function meeting, frankly, at that time 00:09:46.560 --> 00:09:48.296 of night, an important issue should have 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.056 been this time of night, not that time 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:51.976 of night. So, can I say 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:52.696 you're here? 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:54.856 Yeah. So, I'll read the I'll read the 00:09:54.880 --> 00:09:57.880 motion. 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.080 uh that c that council one undertake an 00:10:01.839 --> 00:10:03.576 investigation into the impact of the 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.600 activity centers program affecting five 00:10:06.800 --> 00:10:08.616 centers in the municipality and the 00:10:08.640 --> 00:10:11.176 suburban rail loop project proposed by 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.255 the state government will uh will have 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.279 in the effect and receive a publicly 00:10:16.640 --> 00:10:19.096 available report on these matters at the 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:22.120 August 2026 council meeting or earlier 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:23.896 in the event that the state government 00:10:23.920 --> 00:10:25.656 gazetted the changes of the planning 00:10:25.680 --> 00:10:27.976 controls occurring before that date. 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.000 Two, for the benefit of residents, rate 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:34.279 business owners uh res sorry residents 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:36.696 rate rate payers and business owners of 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.016 Bayside provide a comprehensive summary 00:10:39.040 --> 00:10:41.736 of the report and its and its resolution 00:10:41.760 --> 00:10:43.976 including a link to the full report no 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.216 later than one month after the council 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.536 has considered consideration of the 00:10:48.560 --> 00:10:51.336 report. A in a prominent location on 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.360 council's website. B via via council's 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:57.255 communications channels. C a feature 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.656 article in the next available Let's Talk 00:10:59.680 --> 00:11:02.680 Bayside. D by mail uh to all Bayside 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:05.176 whole 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.200 homeowners homeowners and uh businesses 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:11.176 in the most cost-effective method of for 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:12.935 this to be distributed within the 00:11:12.959 --> 00:11:15.016 existing budget with the with the means 00:11:15.040 --> 00:11:18.040 and content to be approved by the CEO. 00:11:18.160 --> 00:11:20.856 Three, include in the report advice from 00:11:20.880 --> 00:11:23.255 council officers in in relation to a 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.416 potential increase in rates and other 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.416 charges required for council to pay for 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.736 the necessary infrastructure to meet the 00:11:29.760 --> 00:11:32.760 increasing population set out by out by 00:11:33.040 --> 00:11:36.040 the state government. Uh B, expansion of 00:11:36.959 --> 00:11:38.935 upgrade and upgraded requirements of 00:11:38.959 --> 00:11:40.456 council drainage systems due to 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:43.416 increased high-rise housing. C expansion 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.375 and upgrading uh required for accessible 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.255 open space. D. Expansion and upgrading 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:50.935 required for local roads to manage 00:11:50.959 --> 00:11:53.736 increased traffic. Four, advocate to the 00:11:53.760 --> 00:11:55.656 state government to deliver upgrades and 00:11:55.680 --> 00:11:57.815 urgent maintenance to existing state 00:11:57.839 --> 00:11:59.976 infrastructure, including state roads to 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:02.375 manage increasing traffic and the 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:04.375 delivery of new state community 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:06.136 infrastructure, including but not 00:12:06.160 --> 00:12:08.776 limited to kindergartens and schools 00:12:08.800 --> 00:12:11.016 accommodate and the schools to 00:12:11.040 --> 00:12:13.016 accommodate the impact of growing 00:12:13.040 --> 00:12:15.176 population in the activity center. 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:17.016 Thank you, councellor Leigh. And with all 00:12:17.040 --> 00:12:18.375 age you can debate. 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.336 Okay. Thank you. F firstly can I say 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:23.896 anybody who says about this debate that 00:12:23.920 --> 00:12:26.615 it's being political. It's not. This is 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.176 about what happens to us if the suburban 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.976 rail loop actually proceeds. That the 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:34.615 cost to us. So it's not the cost to the 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:37.576 state, it's the cost to us and who pays. 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.815 Can I say just in case anybody thinks 00:12:39.839 --> 00:12:41.976 I'm being political about it, let me 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:43.736 assure you I'm not. I'm here as a 00:12:43.760 --> 00:12:45.815 counselor and in fact during the last 00:12:45.839 --> 00:12:47.815 federal elections I actually negotiated 00:12:47.839 --> 00:12:50.839 with the then member for Goldstein to um 00:12:50.880 --> 00:12:52.296 actually come out and attack the 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:55.320 suburban rail loop. So despite what my 00:12:56.079 --> 00:12:58.856 predetermined views may be I went and 00:12:58.880 --> 00:13:01.416 spoke to her and to her great credit um 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.336 she actually came out on behalf of the 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:05.656 city of Bayside. So it was clearly an 00:13:05.680 --> 00:13:07.896 issue that was non-political among among 00:13:07.920 --> 00:13:10.375 the major candidates. 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.856 Can I say what is the costs the 00:13:12.880 --> 00:13:14.696 upgrades? So when you're do talking 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:17.576 about four maybe five or six story 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:19.656 buildings or even higher at some point 00:13:19.680 --> 00:13:22.680 when they do that means there's massive 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.016 drainage. Most of the drainage system 00:13:25.040 --> 00:13:27.656 across our city will have been built in 00:13:27.680 --> 00:13:30.375 era in the times of perhaps the 50s and 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:32.856 60s. So we're talking about significant 00:13:32.880 --> 00:13:35.576 upgrades of the drainage system to our 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.736 to our community. 00:13:37.760 --> 00:13:39.736 Now who pays? Well, it won't be the 00:13:39.760 --> 00:13:41.976 state government. It'll be the council. 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:44.375 And if it is the council, it's everybody 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:46.136 sitting in this room and everybody else 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:47.736 out in the community that's going to pay 00:13:47.760 --> 00:13:50.296 for it. Yet, it's not been something 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:52.856 that the state has considered. It's 00:13:52.880 --> 00:13:55.176 going to take other other effects on us. 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.736 What happens to the local roads? And 00:13:57.760 --> 00:13:59.576 indeed, it's not only the local roads. 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:01.976 When you look at what the SRL is saying 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.615 is they want to turn Bay Road into one 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:06.696 lane either way with a bike park because 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.720 the bridge is so um is so designed that 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.296 they'd have to do a new bridge which is 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:15.096 at the minimum today's cost but not the 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.416 love this government's cost a minimum of 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.375 $140 million for that bridge that you go 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.375 under. So we're going to build the 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.055 activity centers there and all the rest 00:14:24.079 --> 00:14:25.736 of it and we're going to reduce the 00:14:25.760 --> 00:14:28.760 roads. I don't think so. When you look 00:14:28.959 --> 00:14:31.175 at the open space, we are already under 00:14:31.199 --> 00:14:33.656 pressure on open space with the changes 00:14:33.680 --> 00:14:35.416 that have gone on in our community with 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.416 girls being out in the community and 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:40.216 sports these days. If you take sock for 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.935 example, the soccer teams locally, 30 00:14:42.959 --> 00:14:45.959 that I know of um and the girls climbing 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:48.055 up to being the same numbers of teams 00:14:48.079 --> 00:14:49.416 that the guys are, that's actually good 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:51.656 for our community that all our kids are 00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:54.055 going out and being in sport, but we're 00:14:54.079 --> 00:14:56.055 going to have a massive increase in the 00:14:56.079 --> 00:14:58.536 number of people. Now I think one of the 00:14:58.560 --> 00:15:01.560 things you should all note about this is 00:15:01.680 --> 00:15:04.680 Bayside is roughly 30 square kilometers 00:15:06.079 --> 00:15:09.079 of of space versus the city of Dandong 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.399 is uh 129 square kilmters of space. At 00:15:14.959 --> 00:15:17.959 2001, the census on us was 101,3 00:15:19.680 --> 00:15:22.680 101 36 00:15:23.920 --> 00:15:26.920 uh living in 400 sorry 43 43,13 00:15:29.040 --> 00:15:30.935 dwellings. The state government is 00:15:30.959 --> 00:15:33.656 requiring 30 30,000 more new dellings by 00:15:33.680 --> 00:15:36.680 dwellings by 50 251. 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:39.416 Uh and yet that's our squares. 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.896 Comparatively the city of Danon that 00:15:41.920 --> 00:15:44.920 same time 167,298 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:49.016 uh people living in living living in 00:15:49.040 --> 00:15:51.255 what I said before 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:54.279 130 square kilometers and they're having 00:15:54.560 --> 00:15:57.560 their target is an extra 52,000 people 00:15:57.600 --> 00:15:59.815 just over 52,500. 00:15:59.839 --> 00:16:02.216 What this means to us is we're going to 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:03.976 become cramped. I've already said this 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:05.896 once before in the media. They're 00:16:05.920 --> 00:16:08.136 turning us into Collingwood by the beach 00:16:08.160 --> 00:16:10.216 where we'll be cloud crowded with 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:12.456 high-rise. You won't be moving around 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:14.776 much. The days of Bayside what it being 00:16:14.800 --> 00:16:16.856 is now that's just a suburban rail loop. 00:16:16.880 --> 00:16:18.375 Go and have a look at what's going 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.136 happening to Hyatt for example or 00:16:20.160 --> 00:16:23.160 Moraban. I went with 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:26.776 Thank you councel. We got a mover. Do we 00:16:26.800 --> 00:16:28.296 have a second? 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:29.656 Thank you councellor Taylor. 00:16:29.680 --> 00:16:30.375 I went I went 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:31.656 we got one more minute. 00:16:31.680 --> 00:16:34.615 Thank you. I went on uh an invitation 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.016 from councellor Hockley to Moravan where 00:16:37.040 --> 00:16:38.856 they're doing all this high-rise there. 00:16:38.880 --> 00:16:40.536 We have learned nothing from the housing 00:16:40.560 --> 00:16:42.696 commission days of old from what I can 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:44.856 see and if you looked at what happened 00:16:44.880 --> 00:16:47.815 around council Hawky's area there with 00:16:47.839 --> 00:16:49.656 the buildings being built there and 00:16:49.680 --> 00:16:52.536 they're not 20story buildings but 00:16:52.560 --> 00:16:55.016 they're it's crowded. I saw buses not 00:16:55.040 --> 00:16:56.935 being able to get through. I saw 00:16:56.959 --> 00:16:58.615 thousands of dollars worth of hundreds 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:00.216 of thousands of dollars worth of damage 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.240 to council uh drainage system by trucks 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:05.576 running them over. Nobody ever getting 00:17:05.600 --> 00:17:08.600 through yet we have narrow streets. So 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:09.736 we're going to have all these narrow 00:17:09.760 --> 00:17:12.376 streets still and yet there's no buses, 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:14.696 there's no nothing. So my point of view 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:17.720 is this this is an issue that faces the 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:21.000 whole of not just us but up the suburban 00:17:21.439 --> 00:17:23.415 rail loop line. I'm talking to all the 00:17:23.439 --> 00:17:25.015 other councils up there to get them on 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.096 board because I think we need to tackle 00:17:27.120 --> 00:17:28.616 the state government on this because 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.640 they're putting an impost on us, our 00:17:31.679 --> 00:17:34.216 council, the other council's concern and 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:36.616 I believe we've got to make sure that 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.936 our cit citizens are treated fairly out 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:40.136 of this which we're not. 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:43.160 Thank you councellor Leigh. councellor Tain. 00:17:46.320 --> 00:17:48.696 Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um, councellor Leigh, 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:51.655 I think you've covered lots of uh the 00:17:51.679 --> 00:17:53.496 debate and the arguments why this 00:17:53.520 --> 00:17:55.655 exercise is a good one in your speech, 00:17:55.679 --> 00:17:58.679 but just to add, today in the the news 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.720 uh front page of the age, it's again um 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:03.976 come into contention as to how we're 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:06.696 going to fund the suburban rail loop 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.720 project itself um which is currently 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.456 divided into three parts. Um obviously 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:14.376 the state government paying onethird of 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:17.400 it, the 11.2 2 billion from federal. 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:20.856 That's currently 2.2 with them refusing 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:23.736 to pay the rest without a business case. 00:18:23.760 --> 00:18:26.696 And then locally, the value um capture 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:29.576 is now in question um given that the 00:18:29.600 --> 00:18:32.216 project was announced seven years ago. 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:33.976 Um and they're saying that value's 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:36.216 already been added in um real estate 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:38.696 being traded between now and then. So 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:41.256 that's uh now in question and they're 00:18:41.280 --> 00:18:44.216 considering siphoning not my words but 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:46.216 their journalist's words siphoning off 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:49.240 taxes. So Robbing Peter to pay Paul for 00:18:49.600 --> 00:18:52.535 this project. Um and obviously the 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.096 elephant in the room is the community 00:18:55.120 --> 00:18:58.120 infrastructure then to back this up. So 00:18:58.160 --> 00:19:01.160 uh we've already done the um modeling 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.816 around kindergartens um and what that's 00:19:03.840 --> 00:19:05.576 going to cost council. I think that's 00:19:05.600 --> 00:19:08.296 currently at around 56 million. That's 00:19:08.320 --> 00:19:11.320 without taking into account 30,000 new 00:19:11.360 --> 00:19:14.056 homes um covering the suburban rail loop 00:19:14.080 --> 00:19:15.976 and the activity centers. So that's 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.056 what's expected to be delivered here in 00:19:18.080 --> 00:19:21.080 Bayside between now and 201. So 00:19:21.679 --> 00:19:24.535 potentially another 75,000 people. We 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:26.056 have the figures. We can do the 00:19:26.080 --> 00:19:27.816 modeling. Uh that's just for 00:19:27.840 --> 00:19:30.376 kindergartens. Obviously drainage is 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.096 currently a huge issue. How who's paying 00:19:33.120 --> 00:19:35.655 for that? Uh we need to factor that into 00:19:35.679 --> 00:19:38.456 the modeling. upgrades of the roads and 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:40.056 so forth. I think it's a really good 00:19:40.080 --> 00:19:42.296 exercise. We've got time to do it and it 00:19:42.320 --> 00:19:44.456 needs to be presented to both the 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:46.696 opposition and the current um state 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:48.856 government as to well this is the cost 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.256 of the project itself and these are the 00:19:51.280 --> 00:19:54.280 auxiliary costs and uh who's to pay for 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:57.015 them and yes maybe each rate payer needs 00:19:57.039 --> 00:19:58.856 to know their share of the portion 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:01.880 moving forward over these next 15 years. 00:20:02.080 --> 00:20:02.535 Thank you. 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.696 Thank you councellor Taylor Haynes. Any 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:07.416 further debate from the floor? 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:10.440 Uh, councellor Hockley, please go ahead. 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:14.056 Um, 00:20:14.080 --> 00:20:17.080 I guess I'll I'll add um my voice from 00:20:17.520 --> 00:20:20.056 Hyatt and Hampton East. councellor Leigh at 00:20:20.080 --> 00:20:23.080 least has seen what congestion and what 00:20:23.600 --> 00:20:25.096 um 00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:27.655 rapid and substantial development 00:20:27.679 --> 00:20:29.176 already means. none of which has 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:30.696 anything to do with Victorian Government 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.416 Activity Center planning changes or the 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.440 SRL uh but instead 350 new dwellings 00:20:37.520 --> 00:20:39.816 which were approved by the last council 00:20:39.840 --> 00:20:42.376 and the council before that and in 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:45.400 higher 1200 new homes uh approved by the 00:20:45.840 --> 00:20:48.840 last council. Um there's no doubt that 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:51.816 these things cost um have a cost in 00:20:51.840 --> 00:20:54.696 terms of uh traffic congestion, 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:57.720 overcrowding, drainage, facilities, 00:20:57.840 --> 00:21:00.840 infrastructure, services. Uh and um 00:21:02.159 --> 00:21:04.216 there's no doubt in my mind that SRL 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:07.176 understands this and is looking to uh 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.200 put in place um processes that will have 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.216 that paid for. In this in the case of 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:14.936 Hyatt and Hampton East, council has 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:17.736 relied on on uh developer contributions 00:21:17.760 --> 00:21:20.616 to fund new drainage systems uh and 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:22.616 relied on 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:25.015 relied on the developer to address uh 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:28.039 congestion uh and traffic issues uh and 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:29.976 shifted the cost of those extra 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.456 dwellings uh and the schooling and the 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.480 kindergartens uh and uh the other 00:21:35.600 --> 00:21:37.895 services that are needed uh onto the 00:21:37.919 --> 00:21:40.535 state. So, there's a few crocodile tears 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.856 uh here in all of this and please don't 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:44.535 um please don't tell me there's no 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:47.096 politics associated with this. We have 00:21:47.120 --> 00:21:49.655 essentially um positioned ourselves in 00:21:49.679 --> 00:21:50.936 the eyes of the Victorian government and 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:53.256 the SRL as the official leadership of 00:21:53.280 --> 00:21:55.976 the opposition in relation to SRL. And 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.655 if you want, you had to go. 00:21:57.679 --> 00:21:58.936 Thank you. 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:01.655 Uh and if you um if you're serious about 00:22:01.679 --> 00:22:04.616 actually advocating for solutions, uh 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:07.640 then um stop putting forward u motions 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:09.895 that are about litter boxing everybody 00:22:09.919 --> 00:22:12.856 in the uh in the municipality 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:14.376 um how terrible the Victorian government 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.535 is or how terrible SRL is because that's 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.256 that'll only just burn $100,000 00:22:19.280 --> 00:22:21.176 uh and make you feel good in the tummy. 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:23.576 This is about 00:22:23.600 --> 00:22:26.600 this is about actually doing the job of 00:22:27.760 --> 00:22:29.816 building the relationships with 00:22:29.840 --> 00:22:31.256 government whether you like it or not. 00:22:31.280 --> 00:22:33.256 Hold your nose if you do it. But the but 00:22:33.280 --> 00:22:35.256 the rate the rateayers of this c of this 00:22:35.280 --> 00:22:37.736 of this municipality the the the the 00:22:37.760 --> 00:22:39.416 taxpayers the residents of this 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:41.976 municipality deserve better than this uh 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:43.736 this political nonsense. 00:22:43.760 --> 00:22:45.895 Thank you councellor Hockley. councellor 00:22:45.919 --> 00:22:48.919 Irlicht, would you like to say no? Um, 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:51.895 Councellors, I'll I'll be very brief 00:22:51.919 --> 00:22:54.296 because most of it's been covered by 00:22:54.320 --> 00:22:56.775 councellor Taylor Hans and councellor Leigh. 00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:58.616 What I see here in this notice of motion 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:00.535 is really three parts. Is an 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:02.376 investigation of the impact of the 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:04.135 activity center program and suburban 00:23:04.159 --> 00:23:07.159 rail loop reporting on this and then 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:10.216 advocating to state government no matter 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:13.240 who they are if they are uh Labor or 00:23:13.280 --> 00:23:16.056 Liberals. So our job, what I see is our 00:23:16.080 --> 00:23:19.080 job is to tell our residents now and in 00:23:19.679 --> 00:23:22.535 the future what's coming their way. What 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.416 I see coming their way is a different 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:28.296 character and different municipality to 00:23:28.320 --> 00:23:31.256 the one they currently live in. Uh if 00:23:31.280 --> 00:23:33.576 you look into item 12.1 and you look 00:23:33.600 --> 00:23:36.600 into the data behind uh our community 00:23:37.120 --> 00:23:40.120 survey, you'll find that 80% 80% of our 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:44.440 community oppose additional height 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:47.096 additional levels. It's a great to hear 00:23:47.120 --> 00:23:49.336 about what last council has done and the 00:23:49.360 --> 00:23:51.655 permits that they issued. But I like to 00:23:51.679 --> 00:23:54.456 clarify that on the CSRO side for 00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:56.775 example, what currently is being built 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.799 as seven levels and I might be wrong. At 00:23:59.919 --> 00:24:02.376 some stage we saw a recommendation for 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.856 that to be way higher than the seven 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.880 levels and close to being double. So in 00:24:08.159 --> 00:24:11.159 a way the previous council did not 00:24:11.520 --> 00:24:13.976 provide the developer what the state was 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.296 proposing to provide to them in extra 00:24:16.320 --> 00:24:18.376 heights. So it turned out to be a better 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.400 outcome. What our job here is to really 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:24.856 take care of Bayside now but what's more 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.176 important is to really take care of 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.200 Bayside for of the future. making sure 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.559 that the people living here and have the 00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:37.576 opportunity to enjoy Bayside now and in 00:24:37.600 --> 00:24:40.056 the future. We understand there is issue 00:24:40.080 --> 00:24:41.496 with housing crisis and housing 00:24:41.520 --> 00:24:43.816 affordability. The reality and from 00:24:43.840 --> 00:24:46.376 where I'm sitting as someone who works 00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:49.015 in property, it's not a planning matter. 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.015 I don't believe the cost of construction 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:53.336 and the red tape 00:24:53.360 --> 00:24:56.360 uh is I don't believe the cost of 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.015 construction uh it is actually the cost 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:00.616 of construction and red tape but 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:02.535 contributing to that. It's not a 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:04.376 planning issue. We're currently adding 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:06.696 on our residential stock nearly 500 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.576 dwellings every year and I can tell you 00:25:09.600 --> 00:25:11.736 not all of the 500 dwellings are being 00:25:11.760 --> 00:25:14.056 sold because they are not adding up. The 00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:15.895 feasibilities are not adding up. some 00:25:15.919 --> 00:25:18.919 developers are actually not building. So 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.015 if we are to protect the future of 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:24.039 Vasad, we need to go ahead investigate 00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:26.775 the impact of these activity centers 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.616 which in my opinion they're going to be 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:31.640 absorbing close to 50% of VED. We're 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.456 talking the walkable catchment areas of 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.480 800 m radius. Multiply that by the five 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.096 train stations. It's going to absorb 00:25:41.120 --> 00:25:43.176 most of our municipality. our 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:45.255 municipality is going to change and it 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.895 is our job to tell the future residents 00:25:47.919 --> 00:25:50.056 how it's going to look like in the 00:25:50.080 --> 00:25:52.696 future and the cost of that. Uh 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:54.456 councellor Leigh I'll put it back to you to 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:56.696 close. 00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:59.720 Um thank you. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Can I 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:02.456 say look in answer to councellor Hockley 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:03.816 I'm not interested in playing games on 00:26:03.840 --> 00:26:05.655 the state government. I made the point 00:26:05.679 --> 00:26:07.496 I'm more than happy to negotiate with 00:26:07.520 --> 00:26:10.135 anybody. I ne did it with with uh the 00:26:10.159 --> 00:26:12.376 former member for Goldstein. I'll talk 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:13.895 to the Labour Party. I've talked to the 00:26:13.919 --> 00:26:15.416 Labor Party over lots of things other 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:16.936 things. But this is what you got to 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:18.775 remember in this. This has just been 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.096 rammed down our throats. There's been no 00:26:21.120 --> 00:26:23.655 opportunity for us to discuss this. They 00:26:23.679 --> 00:26:25.336 just decided they were going to do it. 00:26:25.360 --> 00:26:27.416 They didn't come to us and say like 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.296 former governments have done. My god, if 00:26:30.320 --> 00:26:32.135 if the Kennet government all those years 00:26:32.159 --> 00:26:34.056 ago had done this, imagine the way the 00:26:34.080 --> 00:26:35.816 Labor Party would have operated. This is 00:26:35.840 --> 00:26:38.840 a bunch that by the same time elsewhere 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:40.936 20 years ago they were protecting the 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.895 greens. This time the Labour Party are 00:26:43.919 --> 00:26:45.416 actually destroying the green wedge 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:46.696 where they would have built all this and 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:49.720 offer offered people over their packs of 00:26:49.840 --> 00:26:52.840 lollies or so or biscuits so to get them 00:26:53.120 --> 00:26:54.535 through the night with all the banging 00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:55.976 and noise that's going on. There's been 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:57.976 no discussion about this. This has been 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.000 a decision made in the in the corner 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:04.056 groups of the mind of Daniel Andrews and 00:27:04.080 --> 00:27:07.080 as of today having to find 11.5 billion 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.895 dollars now because the everybody knows 00:27:09.919 --> 00:27:11.976 there's no money in it. The prime 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.456 minister held his nose and gave the $2.2 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:16.135 million to be spent on anything else 00:27:16.159 --> 00:27:18.616 other than the suburban rail loop in 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.856 itself by the self. And they're paying 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.015 people $450,000 00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.096 for a job that somebody wouldn't have 00:27:25.120 --> 00:27:27.176 got $250,000. 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.015 Why? Because the only way they're going 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.255 to get these people run by the CMFU as 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:33.976 part of the game games of the the Labor 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.000 Party. They're all in their own muk 00:27:37.520 --> 00:27:39.336 that's bringing it up on all of the rest 00:27:39.360 --> 00:27:41.576 of us. Now, in my view, if the Labor 00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:44.135 Party and the and my colleague councellor 00:27:44.159 --> 00:27:46.216 Hockley is serious, where did they 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.240 actually ask us? They didn't. This was 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.096 Daniel's dream followed up by his 00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:53.655 puppet, the premier, who's never had a 00:27:53.679 --> 00:27:55.576 real job in his li in a life other than 00:27:55.600 --> 00:27:57.096 working in a minister's office. 00:27:57.120 --> 00:27:58.456 It's not about policy. Thank you. 00:27:58.480 --> 00:27:59.976 Oh, it's not about politics. It's what 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:01.736 they've done to our community. Have they 00:28:01.760 --> 00:28:03.736 come and talk to us? 00:28:03.760 --> 00:28:04.775 They come and I will. 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:06.456 So, we got a mover and a seconder for 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:07.895 the extension council. 00:28:07.919 --> 00:28:08.456 Thank you. 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:10.375 I don't want to talk. I This This is not 00:28:10.399 --> 00:28:12.856 politics to me. It's destroying Bayside. 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.880 Where did they ask us? They didn't. This 00:28:16.159 --> 00:28:17.576 was a government that said when they got 00:28:17.600 --> 00:28:18.696 in they were going to talk to people 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:20.535 about they only talk to the little 00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:21.895 groups they want to talk to who are 00:28:21.919 --> 00:28:24.696 going to go along with the dream. 00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.856 Go and ask the people of hire. Do they 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.096 want all sevenstory buildings? What do 00:28:29.120 --> 00:28:31.336 they want in penny? Pennyale. I don't 00:28:31.360 --> 00:28:33.816 think they want it. I know them too. 00:28:33.840 --> 00:28:36.616 Let's talk to the people. Let's let's 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.096 This is simply what I'm suggesting. 00:28:39.120 --> 00:28:42.120 Let's find out the cost to us. The cost 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:43.895 to us. That's what I'm saying. 00:28:43.919 --> 00:28:46.135 Thank you, councellor Leigh. I'll put it to 00:28:46.159 --> 00:28:48.296 vote. All those in favor councellor 00:28:48.320 --> 00:28:50.616 Taylor hands, councellor, councellor Leigh, 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:52.296 councel 00:28:52.320 --> 00:28:54.936 against. Thank you councellor Hockley. 00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.960 And it is carried. 00:28:59.840 --> 00:29:02.775 Councellors, we are moving to 11.2 notice 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.255 of motion 348, measure to address 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:07.336 unauthorized excavation at Turingham 00:29:07.360 --> 00:29:09.416 Park. And councellor Erlic, do you wish 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.976 to move your notice of motion? 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.000 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. like to uh talk to 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:15.976 this. 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:16.456 Um 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.255 um so Councellors, 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.279 directors, officers, esteemed members. 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.336 Sorry, councellor. councellor Ell 00:29:25.360 --> 00:29:28.360 I'm waiting for the government 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.576 governance is telling me. Are you moving 00:29:31.600 --> 00:29:33.416 the motion or you suggesting? 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:35.096 Just show me some respect and you'll 00:29:35.120 --> 00:29:36.135 find out. Mr. Mayor, 00:29:36.159 --> 00:29:38.216 I am 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.240 of course I'm just 00:29:43.760 --> 00:29:45.976 I'll let the CEO handle 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:47.496 through you, Mr. Mayor. Um, we just need 00:29:47.520 --> 00:29:50.375 to confirm um through councellor Erlic um 00:29:50.399 --> 00:29:51.976 whether you intend to move or 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.496 I will be revoking the motion 00:29:53.520 --> 00:29:54.856 and then we can allow you to continue 00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:56.375 and I request the respect. 00:29:56.399 --> 00:29:57.096 Thank you. 00:29:57.120 --> 00:29:59.255 That I'm deserved 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:00.696 to speak to it. 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.416 Thank you. Please. 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.440 So, I rise today to address motion 348 00:30:08.159 --> 00:30:10.856 concerning the unauthorized excavations 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.416 at Hurlingham Park and to formally 00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.056 propose its withdrawal. 00:30:16.080 --> 00:30:19.080 Over the past few days, the issue has 00:30:19.120 --> 00:30:21.336 garnered significant attention in the 00:30:21.360 --> 00:30:24.360 media with strong sentiments expressed 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.936 about the importance of providing safe 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.416 spaces for our young people to engage in 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:31.816 recreational activities like bike 00:30:31.840 --> 00:30:34.840 riding. I hear those voices and I 00:30:35.520 --> 00:30:37.096 acknowledge the passion and concern 00:30:37.120 --> 00:30:39.655 behind them. 00:30:39.679 --> 00:30:42.679 Let me be abundantly clear. 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.015 The intent behind this motion was never 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.039 to stifle creativity or the energy of 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:49.976 our youth. 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.000 The concerns raised in this motion were 00:30:53.120 --> 00:30:55.736 grounded in legitimate issues. 00:30:55.760 --> 00:30:58.760 Safety risks associated 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.799 with unauthorized bunk bike jumps. the 00:31:01.840 --> 00:31:04.135 impact on the amenity 00:31:04.159 --> 00:31:06.775 of residents living adjacent to the park 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.936 and the protection of critical 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:10.696 infrastructure lying just below the 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.015 surface which has been disturbed by 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.015 repeated excavations. 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.576 These are real challenges and as a 00:31:17.600 --> 00:31:20.056 council we have a responsibility to 00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:22.856 ensure our public spaces are safe, 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.576 accessible and sustainable for all. 00:31:25.600 --> 00:31:27.655 However, 00:31:27.679 --> 00:31:30.135 I also recognize the way this motion has 00:31:30.159 --> 00:31:32.135 been perceived has caused distress and 00:31:32.159 --> 00:31:34.775 frustration within our community. 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.936 The media coverage has painted a picture 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.616 that does not fully reflect our share 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.640 goal of fostering a vibrant, inclusive 00:31:42.080 --> 00:31:44.135 space for everyone, including our 00:31:44.159 --> 00:31:46.456 younger people. 00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:48.375 I am disappointed that this matter has 00:31:48.399 --> 00:31:50.535 been litigated 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.775 through the press and public channels 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:54.216 rather than through constructive 00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:57.015 dialogue with council. 00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:58.856 That said, I take on board the feedback 00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.495 from our community and I am committed to 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:04.375 finding a better way forward. 00:32:04.399 --> 00:32:06.775 To that end, I wish to highlight the 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.799 council is already actively exploring 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.216 options to address this issue 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.856 collaboratively. We're in discussions to 00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.255 scope out nearby sites for a permanent, 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.416 safe, and purpose-built bike track that 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.255 would provide a much larger and more 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.279 suitable space for our young riders. 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.216 Additionally, I would like to 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:27.976 investigate the possibility of 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.056 developing an additional dirt track near 00:32:30.080 --> 00:32:32.616 the Dendi foreshore, which could further 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.535 enhance recreational opportunities for 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.936 our community's youth. 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.856 These initiatives reflect our commitment 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.176 to supporting the rec recreational needs 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.495 of our young people while addressing the 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.456 safe and amenity the safety and amenity 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.480 concerns of all of our park users. 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:52.856 In light of this, I believe that 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.880 continuing with motion 348 as it stands 00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:57.816 would not serve the best interests of 00:32:57.840 --> 00:33:00.775 our community. I pro propose that we 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.255 revoke this motion and instead focus on 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.279 working together. council, residents, 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.375 our young people to develop a solution 00:33:08.399 --> 00:33:11.399 that meets everybody's needs. I strongly 00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.015 encourage those who have voiced their 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.736 opposition to this motion to engage 00:33:15.760 --> 00:33:18.760 directly with council. Engage with us. 00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:21.495 Let's move away from confrontation and 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.216 towards collaboration. 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.936 We all want the same outcome, safe, 00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:29.015 vibrant, and inclusive public spaces 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.976 that our community can take pride in. 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.135 I invite my fellow Councellors to support 00:33:34.159 --> 00:33:37.159 the revocation of motion 348 and to join 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.336 me in committing to a constructive 00:33:39.360 --> 00:33:41.736 communitydriven approach to resolving 00:33:41.760 --> 00:33:43.736 this issue, 00:33:43.760 --> 00:33:45.255 including exploring the exciting 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.176 potential for new dirt track near the 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.056 Dendy foreshore. 00:33:50.080 --> 00:33:52.056 Together, we can create something truly 00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:53.816 positive for our youth and for our 00:33:53.840 --> 00:33:56.840 entire community. Thank you. 00:33:57.120 --> 00:33:59.336 Thank you, councellor Irlicht. and it is 00:33:59.360 --> 00:34:00.936 recorded in the minutes that the notice 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.960 of motion has been withdrawn. We're 00:34:04.159 --> 00:34:07.015 moving to section 12 that is reports by 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:08.776 the organization 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.095 councils and members of the gallery. 00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:12.936 There was one written statement received 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.575 to items on the agenda for tonight's 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.815 meeting and there were no requests to 00:34:17.839 --> 00:34:19.976 speak received. In accordance with 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:21.976 council's governance rules, the names of 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.496 those who have submitted the written 00:34:23.520 --> 00:34:25.496 statement will be read out at the 00:34:25.520 --> 00:34:27.815 commencement of each item and recorded 00:34:27.839 --> 00:34:29.655 in the minutes. However, statements are 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.375 not read out to the meeting to ensure 00:34:32.399 --> 00:34:33.815 the best audio experience for the 00:34:33.839 --> 00:34:35.815 gallery and those following the meeting 00:34:35.839 --> 00:34:38.296 online if officers and councellors could 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.095 also remember to speak directly into the 00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:44.055 microphones. 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.855 Moving to item 12.1, submission to the 00:34:46.879 --> 00:34:48.936 Victorian government on the activity 00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.176 centers program and community 00:34:51.200 --> 00:34:52.776 engagement. And there were no requests 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.016 to be heard on this item. Councellors, I 00:34:55.040 --> 00:34:58.040 need a mover and a seconder. 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.136 Thank you. Councel Leigh moved and 00:35:02.160 --> 00:35:04.456 councellor Taylor H seconded. councellor 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.480 Leigh, would you like to debate? 00:35:09.040 --> 00:35:12.040 Thank you, councellor Taylor Hayes. 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.599 any debate from the floor. 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:20.216 I'll just say a couple words. As I noted 00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:23.240 earlier, um under the notice of motion, 00:35:23.520 --> 00:35:26.520 councellor Leigh, uh on page 36, it is 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.880 stating that 70% of the uh survey 00:35:31.040 --> 00:35:34.040 respondents opposed the extra heart and 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.079 activity centers and an 80% 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.896 opposed the extra heart in the 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.616 neighborhood areas. So it is very clear 00:35:42.640 --> 00:35:45.640 from our community engagement that uh 00:35:46.720 --> 00:35:49.416 our community is not comfortable with 00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.976 the extra heights coming in specifically 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:53.575 the heights coming in the in the 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.456 catchment areas. Uh I'd like to also 00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:59.480 flag that uh for the last uh 10 even 15 00:36:00.560 --> 00:36:02.456 years Bay city council has been 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.480 delivering on our structure plans and we 00:36:05.680 --> 00:36:07.335 have been delivering extra density 00:36:07.359 --> 00:36:10.296 around our activity centers and it took 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.776 a while for us to convince the community 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.575 that the increase in density around the 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:18.599 uh train stations is probably the most 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.119 appropriate. Nevertheless, uh what's 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:24.696 been now proposed by the government is 00:36:24.720 --> 00:36:26.936 to take this to the next level and to 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.960 expand it way into the uh neighborhood 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:33.400 areas into the hinterland of our uh 00:36:34.240 --> 00:36:37.095 suburbs. So it is loud and clear here 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.256 from the results that our community is 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.280 not in favor of the extra heights and I 00:36:42.720 --> 00:36:45.720 commend the officers for this report and 00:36:46.160 --> 00:36:48.216 it's uh I can see there was lots of work 00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:50.536 that went into it and a special thanks 00:36:50.560 --> 00:36:53.256 to our planning team for putting it 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.280 together in such a a swift manner. 00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.335 Uh councel would you like to close or 00:36:59.359 --> 00:37:00.536 I'll put it to about 00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:03.560 Yes, I would. 00:37:03.680 --> 00:37:04.136 Just 00:37:04.160 --> 00:37:07.095 just your microphone, please. 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:08.776 By the way, my screen isn't working, 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.800 just so you know. Um, can I say one of 00:37:11.839 --> 00:37:13.496 the things that seems to be forgotten by 00:37:13.520 --> 00:37:16.456 people with this this high density is 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:18.536 the vast majority of people of Melbourne 00:37:18.560 --> 00:37:20.055 do not want to live in two-bedroom 00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:22.055 apartments. You can get away with it in 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:23.736 Sydney because of the combined how 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.136 Sydney is built. There are some there 00:37:26.160 --> 00:37:28.376 are thousands of planning applications 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.216 that have been passed in this state at 00:37:30.240 --> 00:37:33.240 the moment that nobody is building fact. 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:36.856 So here we are trying to create all 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.256 these activity centers where I think 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:40.696 presumably the former premier thought 00:37:40.720 --> 00:37:42.216 it'd be great to dump a few of them in 00:37:42.240 --> 00:37:44.536 Brighton and Boris and Black Rock and 00:37:44.560 --> 00:37:45.976 all well not Black Rockck we don't have 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.656 a train station so it's where we were 00:37:47.680 --> 00:37:50.376 lucky. So B Morris is even more lucky. 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.776 So my view is there's thousands of this. 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.376 If you're going to build things things, 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:55.896 you got to build them to what people 00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.536 want that they're going to fit. Now, in 00:37:58.560 --> 00:38:01.176 fact, two bedrooms types, thousands of 00:38:01.200 --> 00:38:03.095 two-bedroom units, if that's what we're 00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.736 proposing to be built, that are four to 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.760 six story heights don't work. Um, and 00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:12.680 frankly, um, if you're going to go do 00:38:12.720 --> 00:38:14.136 these things, you get your homework 00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:16.616 right first. And secondly, you don't go 00:38:16.640 --> 00:38:19.640 and build them um well when there's 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.920 thousands of um planning applications 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:24.136 already that have been passed through 00:38:24.160 --> 00:38:25.815 the system across the across the 00:38:25.839 --> 00:38:28.839 metropolitan system. It it is this is 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.416 just what is going on that our community 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.815 has been put under pressure in a way 00:38:33.839 --> 00:38:35.896 that they've never been asked and the 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.976 councils have no control. The fact that 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.216 the state is controlling it, that's the 00:38:40.240 --> 00:38:41.976 sad fact of it all. 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.575 Thank you, Council Leigh. I'll put it to 00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.416 vote. All those in favor, councellor 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.656 Taylor H, councellor Irlicht, councellor Leigh, 00:38:47.680 --> 00:38:49.736 councellor Hockley, councellor El Mouallen 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.760 against none and it is carried. 00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:56.040 Moving to item 12.2, a draft domestic 00:38:56.240 --> 00:38:58.296 animal management plan. And there was 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.296 one written statement received from Miss 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.256 Pauline Morton and Councellors. I need a 00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.136 mover and a seconder. 00:39:06.160 --> 00:39:08.456 Thank you. councellor Hockley moved and a 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:11.256 seconder. councellor Taylor Haynes. 00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:12.936 Council Hockley, would you like to say a 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.736 few words? 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:18.616 Look, just very briefly, uh, Mr. Mayor, 00:39:18.640 --> 00:39:20.856 I want to note that, um, first of all, 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:22.776 for those, uh, viewing at home or those 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:23.896 who are interested in the domestic 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:26.920 animal management plan, uh, this only in 00:39:27.040 --> 00:39:30.040 part uh, covers the question of access 00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.320 um, by dogs uh, on beaches. This will be 00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:37.815 a separate matter that's dealt with by 00:39:37.839 --> 00:39:40.696 council in a in a couple of months. Uh 00:39:40.720 --> 00:39:43.720 but I do thank um a number of um uh 00:39:44.640 --> 00:39:47.095 residents of uh Bayside who've been in 00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:48.856 touch with myself and other councellors 00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:50.616 in relation to places like Ricketts 00:39:50.640 --> 00:39:53.640 Point uh and the off 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:56.456 the off leash uh the off leash 00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:59.176 situation. Um so really from the point 00:39:59.200 --> 00:40:02.136 of view of of this plan where we're at 00:40:02.160 --> 00:40:05.160 uh now um is purely and simply after 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.536 after the first lot of feedback um we're 00:40:08.560 --> 00:40:10.616 going out to the community to uh to 00:40:10.640 --> 00:40:13.496 ensure that the measures that are 00:40:13.520 --> 00:40:16.520 proposed uh in this in this document um 00:40:17.200 --> 00:40:19.416 are suitable and appropriate to the 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.575 future needs for the next four years um 00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.599 of of of residents u particularly dog 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.095 and cat owners but also others in 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:29.416 Bayside who may be affected um by the 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.896 policy. So I would welcome in particular 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:34.920 uh and encourage um groups like um the 00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:37.656 Bayside Dog Alliance and others who've 00:40:37.680 --> 00:40:38.936 been in touch with me and other 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.376 councellors to make sure that their 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:42.055 feedback is heard here and that their 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.079 input uh is made because this is this is 00:40:45.839 --> 00:40:48.055 one chance for the next four years um to 00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:51.079 get it right and to make sure that we um 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.119 uh we we make the most of uh of our dogs 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:57.960 that we all love. um and that we uh 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.800 ensure that Bayside is a great place um 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:05.800 to uh live and raise um raise our pets 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.440 or not as we choose otherwise. Um and I 00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:14.920 commend the plan uh to public 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:16.856 consultation. 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:18.856 Thank you, councellor Hockley. councellor 00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:20.456 Dains, 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.335 just a few more words. Yes. Uh so 00:41:23.359 --> 00:41:25.016 obviously a bit of confusion out there 00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:27.575 in the community um because it is 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.896 domestic animal management plan and the 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.616 proposed beach restrictions. My 00:41:32.640 --> 00:41:34.856 understanding is that next month's 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.880 meeting is around those restrictions. 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:41.000 I've had um the director of planning can 00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:44.696 confirm that that's uh the the case and 00:41:44.720 --> 00:41:47.720 that this is about the uh new plan for 00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:50.776 the next four years. it's legislated um 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.496 and the restrictions came out of the 00:41:53.520 --> 00:41:56.520 previous uh plan. I'm not sure if it was 00:41:56.560 --> 00:41:59.496 previous council or how that was about, 00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:01.976 but anyway, with moving this to 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.376 community consultation, it should not 00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.400 confuse or hinder what is proposed or 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.456 alternatively proposed for the dog 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.616 restrictions to be debated next month. 00:42:12.640 --> 00:42:14.616 That's correct. 00:42:14.640 --> 00:42:16.136 Through the chair, they Yes, that is 00:42:16.160 --> 00:42:19.160 correct. Thank you. 00:42:19.839 --> 00:42:21.815 Thank you, councellor Tyler Hayes. Any 00:42:21.839 --> 00:42:23.815 further debate from the floor? Council 00:42:23.839 --> 00:42:25.416 Leigh. 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.440 Um uh also firstly I've got a pecunary 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:30.936 interest. I've got a dog just so we 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.960 know. Look, I think nobody wants to see 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.079 dogs that are uh under out of control 00:42:39.680 --> 00:42:42.680 doing the wrong thing. Um a lot some 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.176 people are scared of dogs or animals and 00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:46.776 whatever. So, we've obviously got to be 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.416 cautious about what we do. But I also 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:51.656 know one thing about um as an older 00:42:51.680 --> 00:42:54.216 person um having a dog is important for 00:42:54.240 --> 00:42:55.896 another reason. It actually forces you 00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.920 out to do other things. And so I'm in 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.960 favor of providing you're not getting um 00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:04.055 alals that want to actually kill people 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.616 or something like that. I'm in favor of 00:43:06.640 --> 00:43:09.640 people having pets as long as they don't 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.920 distract from other other people's um 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:14.936 environment so to speak. 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:17.656 I'm I'm also concerned that very 00:43:17.680 --> 00:43:19.335 gradually what happens is we keep 00:43:19.359 --> 00:43:21.016 tightening things and tightening things 00:43:21.040 --> 00:43:22.136 and tightening. It doesn't matter 00:43:22.160 --> 00:43:24.456 whether it's the dog the dog rules or 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.136 the beach rules and all the rest of it 00:43:26.160 --> 00:43:29.160 because you know I mean I think often 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:31.896 the people who are making these 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:33.575 decisions and passing these arrangements 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:35.575 for us now I don't mind I don't care 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:37.256 where anybody lives but I think if I'm 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.656 living I know when I go down the if 00:43:39.680 --> 00:43:42.456 let's say the example of the beach um 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:43.896 which is obviously separate from this 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.136 issue but in reality in the middle of 00:43:46.160 --> 00:43:48.295 winter you could look along the whole 00:43:48.319 --> 00:43:50.216 stretch of black rockck beach and the 00:43:50.240 --> 00:43:51.656 only two people on the beach. Well, 00:43:51.680 --> 00:43:53.176 there's one person on the beach and the 00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:56.200 other one's the dog. There's there is 00:43:56.240 --> 00:43:57.976 ample opportunity around in our 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.295 community for both sides to be involved 00:44:00.319 --> 00:44:01.815 in this. And I think certainly where 00:44:01.839 --> 00:44:03.656 dogs are dangerous to human beings, they 00:44:03.680 --> 00:44:05.815 got to be dealt with. But I don't want 00:44:05.839 --> 00:44:08.536 to see the rules and regulations 00:44:08.560 --> 00:44:11.560 changing so harder that it changes. It 00:44:11.680 --> 00:44:13.416 needs to be done. I think I said before 00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.656 earlier in the in our meeting when pri 00:44:15.680 --> 00:44:18.055 prior meeting that um I think it should 00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.536 be set out in a way that it's easy for 00:44:20.560 --> 00:44:22.055 someone to understand. It's all very 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:23.496 well for us sitting around debating all 00:44:23.520 --> 00:44:24.936 of these things and because we have to 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:26.936 sit and read all this stuff but when 00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:28.536 you're a normal person in in the sense 00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:30.376 that you're not involved in all of this. 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.016 The easier the easier and the simpler we 00:44:33.040 --> 00:44:35.575 can keep it for somebody means there 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.599 it's a better arrangement. often too I 00:44:38.720 --> 00:44:41.720 think how we put out the um where you 00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:44.776 can have a dog or not there's sometimes 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:46.856 totally inconsistent which confuses 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.936 people the more commonness that you can 00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.496 do in terms of how that you can't be 00:44:51.520 --> 00:44:54.295 somewhere else is is important so my my 00:44:54.319 --> 00:44:57.016 opinion is I'm I'm in favor of where it 00:44:57.040 --> 00:44:58.856 is at the moment unless someone can show 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.176 me something better and I do want to see 00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:03.335 that we do put out information that a 00:45:03.359 --> 00:45:05.815 normal person can look down the column 00:45:05.839 --> 00:45:07.656 and say this is what it is and this is 00:45:07.680 --> 00:45:09.656 what that's easy for them to read the 00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:12.055 simple you know it's keep it keep it 00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.936 simple um because most people aren't 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:16.616 involved in this this level so my 00:45:16.640 --> 00:45:19.575 opinion is uh I'm I'm happy with the 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.456 arrangements that I've seen and I do 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:24.376 walk around a lot across various 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.616 sections around my black rock so 00:45:26.640 --> 00:45:27.976 someone's got to convince me there's 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.496 something really really wrong for me to 00:45:29.520 --> 00:45:32.520 change things is what I would say 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.295 thank you councellor Leigh any further 00:45:34.319 --> 00:45:35.815 debate from the floor you got a question 00:45:35.839 --> 00:45:37.335 councellor lines. Please go guys. 00:45:37.359 --> 00:45:39.176 Just one question. I'm not sure. 00:45:39.200 --> 00:45:40.936 Do you mind standing up to council 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:41.416 lines? 00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:43.656 Uh the question is around just the 00:45:43.680 --> 00:45:45.976 registration fees and I've just wondered 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:48.376 with this updated damp. Have we 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:51.176 considered the updated advice around 00:45:51.200 --> 00:45:54.200 from vets around when um dogs should be 00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:57.256 neutered? Because that's now moved to 18 00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:59.496 months from I think it's current it was 00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:02.520 around 12 months. it's considered not 00:46:02.640 --> 00:46:05.575 cruel but just not good for an animal to 00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:08.599 be desexed before then a dog 00:46:08.640 --> 00:46:10.456 particularly pure breads and so forth. 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:11.976 So I just wondered if that's been taken 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.000 into account with the costs. 00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:16.536 Would you know or do you need to take 00:46:16.560 --> 00:46:19.256 that on notice through the chair? Um I 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.256 understand there is some debate in the 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:22.936 in the industry around the appropriate 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:24.936 time for desexing especially of large 00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.335 dogs. Um, typically we would review that 00:46:27.359 --> 00:46:29.496 at the fees and charges st um, stage of 00:46:29.520 --> 00:46:30.936 the budget process and we're happy to 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:32.376 have that conversation at that point. 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:33.896 Um, but the damp doesn't specifically 00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:36.136 talk to that. 00:46:36.160 --> 00:46:38.616 Thank you. No further debate from the 00:46:38.640 --> 00:46:40.216 floor. 00:46:40.240 --> 00:46:41.976 Councellors, I'll say a couple words. So, 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:43.496 what we're doing here tonight is we are 00:46:43.520 --> 00:46:46.520 noting the pre preliminary feedback and 00:46:46.560 --> 00:46:49.560 also authorizing uh, this draft uh, for 00:46:50.160 --> 00:46:53.160 community consultation. What what I 00:46:53.359 --> 00:46:55.095 really like to note though from the 00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.416 preliminary feedback we received is most 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.136 of the feedback suggest that there need 00:47:00.160 --> 00:47:01.976 to be improvements 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:03.815 uh regarding increasing animal 00:47:03.839 --> 00:47:06.536 management uh surveillance and 00:47:06.560 --> 00:47:08.295 enforcement 00:47:08.319 --> 00:47:10.936 uh providing adequate dedicated dog off 00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.960 leash spaces and increasing dog related 00:47:14.160 --> 00:47:17.095 amenities and also improving and 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.119 upgrading the instructional signage. Uh 00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:22.536 this is uh really what I'm hearing from 00:47:22.560 --> 00:47:25.095 the community year on year. It seems 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:27.095 that we have to do this work. I'm 00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:28.936 looking forward to see what the 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:30.456 community is going to come back to us 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.616 with. Uh councellor Hockley, would you 00:47:32.640 --> 00:47:34.536 like to close? 00:47:34.560 --> 00:47:36.136 Uh thanks Mr. Mayor. I don't think 00:47:36.160 --> 00:47:37.656 there's anything more to add other than 00:47:37.680 --> 00:47:39.736 that I'd strongly support the comments 00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:41.256 that have been made particularly around 00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:42.856 signage. It's one of the themes that 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.736 have kept coming back to me from um a 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.456 range of different uh people uh around 00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.456 the area. in particular, it's un people 00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:51.815 are often unclear about what their 00:47:51.839 --> 00:47:53.656 obligations are in relation to a 00:47:53.680 --> 00:47:56.680 particular park um or um or other area. 00:47:58.319 --> 00:48:00.295 And anything we can do to clarify that 00:48:00.319 --> 00:48:02.456 for for people, I think is is incredibly 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.480 important. As a dog owner myself, um 00:48:06.319 --> 00:48:09.319 uh it's um it's something which is uh uh 00:48:10.720 --> 00:48:13.016 is always a bit of a a bit of a mystery 00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:15.575 box when you arrive at a new dog park in 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.256 Bayside. And I think I've been to most 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.280 of them. Wishar Rickett's point uh and 00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:22.696 Dendi Park. They're all terrific parks, 00:48:22.720 --> 00:48:23.976 but there's all there are different 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.295 obligations, different areas that we um 00:48:26.319 --> 00:48:29.319 that we're able to use. And I think good 00:48:29.359 --> 00:48:31.736 signage um is the sign of a of a council 00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:33.815 that's got its um got its stuff 00:48:33.839 --> 00:48:36.839 together. Uh it would be great to see um 00:48:37.040 --> 00:48:39.016 the feedback that supports that approach 00:48:39.040 --> 00:48:41.656 and for council to be an exemplar of how 00:48:41.680 --> 00:48:43.256 we can have a good relationship with 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.280 both dog owners uh and non-dog owners 00:48:46.319 --> 00:48:49.176 and as as well as cat owners noting that 00:48:49.200 --> 00:48:51.815 we made a decision earlier last earlier 00:48:51.839 --> 00:48:53.976 this year or late last year in relation 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:55.496 to 00:48:55.520 --> 00:48:58.216 um cat containment which I think is um 00:48:58.240 --> 00:49:00.136 was also appropriate. I think that just 00:49:00.160 --> 00:49:01.815 demonstrates that as a council we are 00:49:01.839 --> 00:49:04.839 trying to tread um a middle line down u 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.936 down a path of ensuring that uh dogs and 00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:11.960 cats and other pets are looked after and 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.055 safe but that they don't affect the 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.616 amenity or the environment of um 00:49:16.640 --> 00:49:17.736 Bayside. 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:19.176 Thank you councellor Hockley. I'll put it 00:49:19.200 --> 00:49:21.575 to vote. All those in favor, councellor 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:23.575 Taylor Haynes, councellor Irlicht, councellor 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:26.599 Leigh, uh, councellor Alma, 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.000 uh, and councellor Hockley against none 00:49:31.359 --> 00:49:34.359 and it is carried. 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.400 We are moving to item 12.3, 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:41.016 response to notice of motion 338, 00:49:41.040 --> 00:49:43.656 security of major activity centers, and 00:49:43.680 --> 00:49:45.335 there were no requests to be heard. 00:49:45.359 --> 00:49:47.575 Councellors, I'm your hands. I need the 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.599 mover and a second please 00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:54.119 on 12.3 councellors 00:49:56.160 --> 00:49:57.095 on your hands. 00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.016 I think there's no appetite to move it 00:49:59.040 --> 00:50:01.256 Mr. Mayor in its current format. 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:03.656 So do we have an alternate councellors? 00:50:03.680 --> 00:50:05.575 No, not currently. 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.736 So in this case I might seek some advice 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.760 from governance to see what happened in 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.216 this case if there's no mover and 00:50:12.240 --> 00:50:13.736 second. 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:15.656 So Councellors have been advised that 00:50:15.680 --> 00:50:18.136 this item will be deferred for future 00:50:18.160 --> 00:50:21.160 council meetings then. Thank you. 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:23.736 Oh sorry we need a move and a second for 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:26.216 deferment. councellor Hockley for 00:50:26.240 --> 00:50:29.240 deferment. Moved and seconded. 00:50:30.720 --> 00:50:32.055 Sorry you got a question councellor 00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.079 Taylor hands will you sec? 00:50:35.839 --> 00:50:37.416 Okay 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:37.736 please. 00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.760 No problem. Go ahead. 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:01.656 Irlicht, you got a question? 00:51:01.680 --> 00:51:03.416 I'd like to talk, please. I've got an 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:04.055 alternative. 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:05.896 No problem. Please go ahead. 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.055 Thank you. Well, first of all, I'm 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:08.456 standing 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:11.480 Sorry, just I've been asked by the 00:51:11.520 --> 00:51:14.520 governance. Sorry, the question. 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:17.256 Sorry, councellor. have been asked by the 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.815 governance to ask you you're moving an 00:51:19.839 --> 00:51:21.896 alternate motion or 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:23.335 or you're asking question to the 00:51:23.359 --> 00:51:24.856 officers. 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.575 Mr. Mr. Mayor, could I uh suggest that 00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:29.896 perhaps council um goes into a recess 00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:31.575 for 5 minutes so we can get our stuff 00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:32.376 together this? 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:35.256 Yep. So I have a for recess for 5 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:37.575 minutes and a second. All those in favor 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.599 for recess, councellor Taylor H, 00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:43.335 councellor Leigh, councellor Hockley, 00:51:43.359 --> 00:51:45.496 councellor Mlm, the amount of we got for 00:51:45.520 --> 00:51:46.456 recess. Council, 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.216 we've got the numbers. That's how it 00:51:48.240 --> 00:51:48.535 works. 00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:50.535 Thank you. And it is carried. We'll go 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:53.256 for 5 minutes and we'll discuss and 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:56.280 we'll convene in at around 7:30. 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.976 Councellors, I got in front of me here a 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.696 resolution for deferment moved by 00:52:04.720 --> 00:52:07.720 councellor Hockley. 00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:09.896 So we need sorry we need apologies we 00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:12.295 need a motion to resume the meeting at 00:52:12.319 --> 00:52:15.319 7:26 a mover councellor Hockley second to 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:18.599 resume council Taylor Hans all in favor 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:20.696 councellor Taylor hands councellor Irlicht 00:52:20.720 --> 00:52:22.535 councel Leigh councellor Hockley councellor 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.559 mim carried so Councellors what I've had 00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:28.616 in front of me here is a motion for the 00:52:28.640 --> 00:52:31.640 deferment of item 12.3 and can we say 00:52:32.240 --> 00:52:35.240 for the next meeting uh thank you and do 00:52:35.359 --> 00:52:37.496 we need second and seconded by councellor 00:52:37.520 --> 00:52:39.976 Taylor Haynes and I'll put it to a vote 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.136 for deferment. councellor Taylor Haynes, 00:52:42.160 --> 00:52:43.416 councellor Elliot, councellor Leigh, 00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.976 councellor Hockley, council and it is 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:47.896 carried 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:50.920 and we are moving now to item 12.4 00:52:51.680 --> 00:52:54.680 that's response to notice of motion 341 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:57.176 activity center presentation and there 00:52:57.200 --> 00:52:58.376 were no requests to be heard. 00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.295 Councellors, I need a mover and a second 00:53:00.319 --> 00:53:02.616 for this. 00:53:02.640 --> 00:53:04.856 Um 00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.880 and on 12.4 councellors uh response to 00:53:09.839 --> 00:53:11.896 motion 341 I need a mover and a 00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.920 seconder. 00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:17.176 Uh 00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:20.200 I understand if we have no mover and a 00:53:20.720 --> 00:53:23.720 seconder we might need to also go 00:53:24.640 --> 00:53:27.640 then the motion is lapsed. 00:53:27.839 --> 00:53:28.936 Sorry. 00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.095 Sorry. We got a counselor moved by 00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.656 councellor Hockley and seconded by 00:53:33.680 --> 00:53:36.216 councellor Leigh. councellor Hockley, would 00:53:36.240 --> 00:53:38.535 you like to say a few words on this? 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:40.936 Um, look, I might just pass on that. Uh, 00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:43.815 Mr. Mayor, I was uh the naming of this 00:53:43.839 --> 00:53:46.136 particular motion confused me and I 00:53:46.160 --> 00:53:47.815 didn't realize that this was about 00:53:47.839 --> 00:53:50.696 graffiti. Um, so I I support it and 00:53:50.720 --> 00:53:52.776 commend it to my colleague. 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:54.295 Thank you, councellor Hockley. councellor 00:53:54.319 --> 00:53:57.176 Leigh. 00:53:57.200 --> 00:53:59.016 given us about graffiti. I'm happy to 00:53:59.040 --> 00:53:59.976 talk. 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:00.936 Please go ahead. 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.656 Can I say one of the things one of the 00:54:03.680 --> 00:54:05.656 things that I think is appalling that's 00:54:05.680 --> 00:54:07.896 going on in our community and it's not 00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:10.920 just Bayside is I think one of the best 00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:13.016 ways of dealing with graffiti is 00:54:13.040 --> 00:54:15.736 removing it. And believe it or not, um 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:17.416 you can go back in history. I had a 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:19.256 friend of mine who was a paint inventor 00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:21.656 and he invented a paint that basically 00:54:21.680 --> 00:54:24.680 made it impossible with most graffiti to 00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:27.176 actually once the paint had been applied 00:54:27.200 --> 00:54:29.016 to graffiti it. Right? So in other 00:54:29.040 --> 00:54:30.295 words, there was a solution that would 00:54:30.319 --> 00:54:32.376 take it off. Guess what? He got bought 00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:34.535 out. He got bought out because the 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.095 graffiti industry is worth squillions 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.896 from what goes on. I think it makes us 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.456 look when you when you walk around and 00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:44.055 you have a look and you see graffiti 00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:47.079 everywhere, you think, my god, can can 00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:50.119 we not get rid of these cheap paint tin 00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:52.535 spray p paints that are using it. It's 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.016 not it's not art. And you look at that 00:54:55.040 --> 00:54:56.856 the gentleman has been climbing up and 00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.880 down the um uh walls all up in the top 00:55:00.160 --> 00:55:03.160 of even down to the yellow sign on on 00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.016 the Talarine Freeway. 00:55:07.040 --> 00:55:08.696 twothirds of the way up he got that 00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:10.856 never mind on tops of buildings and we 00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:12.456 don't clean them up and as a result of 00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.095 that what happens is they keep doing it 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:17.976 and I think unfortunately if you keep 00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.055 doing it to the right spot and I do 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:23.079 notice uh as a good example if you go 00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:26.055 into my ward in black in Black Rockck uh 00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:29.079 just almost opposite uh the Black Rockck 00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.119 Life Saving Club you'll see a a mural 00:55:32.319 --> 00:55:34.696 along a gentleman's front fence and it's 00:55:34.720 --> 00:55:37.720 all bicycles all the way along. It's 00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:41.079 beautifully done. Very well done. And 00:55:41.359 --> 00:55:44.359 you know what? It's never vandalized. 00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.815 There's no vandalization on his on his 00:55:47.839 --> 00:55:49.815 fence. So, what it actually does show 00:55:49.839 --> 00:55:52.535 you that in certain places, if you want 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:54.136 to be clever about it, you can do it. 00:55:54.160 --> 00:55:55.575 And I've got a couple of really good 00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:58.376 ideas. Now, in Boris, for example, some 00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:01.400 years ago, they did a couple of walls 00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:04.760 where they dogs were people's dogs. 00:56:05.200 --> 00:56:06.775 Believe it or not, the council was 00:56:06.799 --> 00:56:09.256 charging $250 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:12.055 a a pot for the dog's name to be uh 00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:14.775 dog's photo to be up on the wall. So I 00:56:14.799 --> 00:56:17.416 have no problem with doing being clever 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.440 about some of those things where you can 00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.136 because I mean from the point of view of 00:56:22.160 --> 00:56:24.376 where I said about Beach Road, he's 00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.376 either the chief band or the doesn't do 00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:28.936 it that does it so nobody nobody else's 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.496 place or more to the point is because 00:56:31.520 --> 00:56:33.976 it's seen as very great good artistic 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:37.000 work which that that um series of bikes 00:56:37.359 --> 00:56:39.416 one after the others if you've seen it 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.896 it's very well done and I think most of 00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.136 the graffitias feel ashamed to actually 00:56:44.160 --> 00:56:46.616 do anything to it. So maybe we've got to 00:56:46.640 --> 00:56:48.456 come around with some other arrangements 00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:50.696 of where I hope we go back to the 00:56:50.720 --> 00:56:53.496 program of where your your dog is up on 00:56:53.520 --> 00:56:56.055 the wall and I tell you what, I'll pay 00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:58.055 I'll find me a wall on Black Rock where 00:56:58.079 --> 00:56:59.176 you're going to do that. I'll put the 00:56:59.200 --> 00:57:02.200 first two $250 up um to do it because I 00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:04.535 think those sorts of things are great 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.936 ways of stopping some of these vandals. 00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:08.696 When you get on the train going to the 00:57:08.720 --> 00:57:11.416 city, it looks like you're going through 00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:13.656 your gander or something with with the 00:57:13.680 --> 00:57:15.815 rail line looking like it's dreadful. 00:57:15.839 --> 00:57:18.839 And anybody that was a a a normal person 00:57:19.040 --> 00:57:21.976 visiting our city would see what they 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.376 don't care about their city. That's what 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.616 it says. We don't care about our city. 00:57:26.640 --> 00:57:28.376 And what are the panel penalties for 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.095 vandals? Not much. And that's the sad 00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:33.575 reflection of it all. So, I'm in favor 00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:35.736 of doing as much as we can to get rid of 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:37.896 the graffiti and I hope they actually 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:39.815 get dealt with. Maybe cleaning it off 00:57:39.839 --> 00:57:42.295 would be a great idea for a start if 00:57:42.319 --> 00:57:43.416 they did it. 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:44.936 Thank you, Council Leigh. Any further 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:47.896 debate? councellor Tines. 00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:50.920 Uh, so I have no um I'm not opposed to 00:57:51.359 --> 00:57:53.656 the recommendation, the first two items. 00:57:53.680 --> 00:57:56.680 So, no changes because we're actually um 00:57:56.960 --> 00:57:59.960 exceeding community expectations. Uh and 00:58:00.319 --> 00:58:03.319 that item number two, council officers 00:58:03.520 --> 00:58:05.575 continue to explore options to support 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.055 removal of gra graffiti from private and 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:11.079 third party. But what I I don't think is 00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.376 a good idea is consideration within the 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.400 budget, the 2026 27 budget for the 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:20.216 removal of graffiti from third party 00:58:20.240 --> 00:58:23.240 assets. I just don't see that as a good 00:58:23.359 --> 00:58:26.359 idea given um the significant liability 00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:29.016 risks for council for doing this for 00:58:29.040 --> 00:58:32.040 entering private land to remove graffiti 00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:34.616 particularly from shop fronts fences and 00:58:34.640 --> 00:58:37.640 wall-mounted um services. Um it's yeah 00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.295 creates exposure for potential claims. 00:58:40.319 --> 00:58:42.696 It's all in here. So I just if that 00:58:42.720 --> 00:58:45.256 third item was removed I think it would 00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.256 go through okay but for me it will be a 00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:50.280 no because of that. 00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.136 Thank you, councellor Taylor Hans, any 00:58:52.160 --> 00:58:54.696 further debate from the floor. I'll say 00:58:54.720 --> 00:58:56.136 a couple words before I get you to 00:58:56.160 --> 00:58:58.295 close. councellor Hockley. Uh so 00:58:58.319 --> 00:58:59.896 Councellors, what I'm reading here is 00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:02.920 that we have done a survey and uh we 00:59:03.200 --> 00:59:06.055 basically received a uh good score from 00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:08.696 24 traders saying that we are going 00:59:08.720 --> 00:59:11.176 above and beyond on cleaning graffiti. 00:59:11.200 --> 00:59:12.936 There was uh six traders that they were 00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:15.575 not happy and another 14 who were 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:18.599 unsure. But what I see here is that uh 00:59:18.720 --> 00:59:21.496 considering that we are uh doing 00:59:21.520 --> 00:59:23.656 absolutely everything we can to target 00:59:23.680 --> 00:59:26.295 the graffiti on council assets, the 00:59:26.319 --> 00:59:29.095 concern here is the non-counsel assets 00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:31.896 graffiti removal and it appears that we 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:34.856 are we have already applied for a second 00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:36.616 round of funding from the department of 00:59:36.640 --> 00:59:38.936 treasury and finance. So I don't see 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.656 that it's going to cost council any 00:59:41.680 --> 00:59:44.680 money at this stage beside advocacy and 00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:47.176 in next budget for next year you can 00:59:47.200 --> 00:59:49.815 always vote against it if we could not 00:59:49.839 --> 00:59:52.136 secure if we cannot secure the money uh 00:59:52.160 --> 00:59:53.896 from the department of treasury you can 00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.216 always make a point of it in the next 00:59:56.240 --> 00:59:59.240 year budget uh for for this item I'm 00:59:59.680 --> 01:00:00.775 happy to support the offic's 01:00:00.799 --> 01:00:03.799 recommendation and also like to uh pay a 01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.880 u say special thanks to graffiti busters 01:00:08.319 --> 01:00:10.216 and the amazing work they are doing 01:00:10.240 --> 01:00:13.176 specifically in in Black Rock and the 01:00:13.200 --> 01:00:15.976 Sandingham and Bowie area. I have seen 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.376 the the dog portrait wars that they have 01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:21.400 done and they look absolutely stunning. 01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:23.896 U so councellor Hockley back to you to 01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:25.176 close. 01:00:25.200 --> 01:00:26.775 Uh thanks Mr. Mayor. Look, and I would 01:00:26.799 --> 01:00:29.736 just reiterate that um I was planning to 01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:31.896 close uh as well on this point that 01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:34.136 Graffiti Busters do an amazing job as 01:00:34.160 --> 01:00:37.160 does Neighborhood Watch uh who have uh 01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:39.656 just recently extended their um their 01:00:39.680 --> 01:00:42.680 reach into Hyatt and I think um probably 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.775 challenge this uh notion that uh people 01:00:46.799 --> 01:00:49.176 think we do a terrific job of of 01:00:49.200 --> 01:00:51.416 removing graffiti. This is fundamentally 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:52.696 the problem that we're dealing with here 01:00:52.720 --> 01:00:55.256 tonight, which is that everybody thinks 01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:56.535 that because the council takes 01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:58.136 responsibility for graffiti that we're 01:00:58.160 --> 01:00:59.736 responsible for all graffiti and we're 01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:01.815 not. Uh we're we're responsible for 01:01:01.839 --> 01:01:04.616 graffiti on our property. Uh but if it's 01:01:04.640 --> 01:01:06.295 Vic Track, if it's Department of 01:01:06.319 --> 01:01:08.775 Transport, if it's Vic Roads, if it's a 01:01:08.799 --> 01:01:11.736 private property, uh then uh it gets 01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:13.575 rather complicated when it comes to 01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:15.736 having permission to remove that 01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.136 graffiti. And I guess that's really what 01:01:18.160 --> 01:01:19.815 part of this motion is about trying to 01:01:19.839 --> 01:01:21.575 do. and that is meet the expense of 01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:23.736 actually going through the process of 01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:25.256 working with all of those different 01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:28.136 agencies to get the graffiti uh to make 01:01:28.160 --> 01:01:30.535 the graffiti um go away on some of those 01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:32.696 surfaces. The other thing that I I want 01:01:32.720 --> 01:01:34.456 to just place on the record too is that 01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:35.656 there is some interesting work being 01:01:35.680 --> 01:01:38.616 done by the higher traders association 01:01:38.640 --> 01:01:41.640 to look at how we can permanently 01:01:42.240 --> 01:01:45.240 um uh alleviate the risk and the 01:01:45.680 --> 01:01:48.136 problems of graffiti by identifying more 01:01:48.160 --> 01:01:50.775 walls in some of our shop trading uh 01:01:50.799 --> 01:01:52.376 areas and some of our precincts, 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:54.535 activity center precincts that can be 01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:57.559 handed over to um mural artists to do 01:01:57.920 --> 01:01:59.016 some of the things that have been done 01:01:59.040 --> 01:02:00.775 in Black Rockck because I think that's 01:02:00.799 --> 01:02:02.376 one of the things that adds adds 01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.400 character and interest to to our um to 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.616 our neighborhoods and our streetscapes. 01:02:08.640 --> 01:02:10.856 On that note, I think uh we've all said 01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:13.880 enough. Um and uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. 01:02:14.319 --> 01:02:15.656 Thank you, councellor Hley. I'll put it 01:02:15.680 --> 01:02:18.055 to vote. All those in favor, councellor 01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:20.055 Taylor Hans, Council, Council Leigh, 01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:22.535 Council Hartley, Council Alm against 01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:25.559 none. And it is carried. Moving to item 01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:29.176 12, item 12.5 community engagement 01:02:29.200 --> 01:02:31.335 policy. And there were no requests to be 01:02:31.359 --> 01:02:32.936 heard. Councellors, I'm in your hands. I 01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:34.696 need the mover and a seconder. Thank 01:02:34.720 --> 01:02:36.616 you, councellor Hockley is moved. And the 01:02:36.640 --> 01:02:39.640 second 01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.535 for community uh engagement policy, 01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:45.016 councellor Tes. Thank you. councellor 01:02:45.040 --> 01:02:46.616 Hockley, would you like to say a few 01:02:46.640 --> 01:02:47.656 words? 01:02:47.680 --> 01:02:50.680 Just very quickly. Um I think um one of 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.440 the uh one of the important roles of of 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.496 a council uh is to engage with its 01:02:57.520 --> 01:02:59.095 communities 01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:01.176 ahead of the process or as part of the 01:03:01.200 --> 01:03:03.416 process of making decisions. uh it's 01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:05.896 often uh it's often we're often 01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.775 criticized uh for the fact that we uh 01:03:08.799 --> 01:03:10.856 undertake uh sometimes what are seen as 01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:13.095 token uh efforts but this policy is is 01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:14.456 an effort I guess at least to put a 01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:16.295 framework in place that's that's 01:03:16.319 --> 01:03:17.815 transparent 01:03:17.839 --> 01:03:20.839 uh and and makes us accountable um the 01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:23.656 only the only comment that I would make 01:03:23.680 --> 01:03:25.976 excuse me in relation to community 01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:29.000 engagement is that 01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:31.416 uh there is a gap in this which is uh 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:33.656 necessary and uh and unavoidable. And 01:03:33.680 --> 01:03:36.136 that is that those organizations, those 01:03:36.160 --> 01:03:38.216 developers, those uh other government 01:03:38.240 --> 01:03:41.240 agencies which are responsible or which 01:03:41.359 --> 01:03:44.359 will be responsible for building stuff 01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.295 in our neighborhoods, in our activity 01:03:46.319 --> 01:03:49.319 centers in the years to come uh need to 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:51.575 uh look at this community engagement 01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:53.496 policy and understand that this is how 01:03:53.520 --> 01:03:56.520 we do it. And our expectation is that 01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:59.496 that's how they should do it as well. 01:03:59.520 --> 01:04:00.856 And I I'm not just talking about the 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:01.976 Victorian government. I'm not just 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:03.335 talking about SRL. I'm not just talking 01:04:03.359 --> 01:04:05.736 about LXRP. I'm talking about large 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.760 developers of the sort that we see uh in 01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:10.696 height 01:04:10.720 --> 01:04:12.696 uh whose laughable community engagement 01:04:12.720 --> 01:04:15.720 approach uh has left our community uh in 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:18.616 uh in the dark over just about every 01:04:18.640 --> 01:04:21.640 aspect of the the public facing process 01:04:21.680 --> 01:04:23.976 of putting up uh those buildings on the 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.000 CSRO site uh as well as in Hampton East 01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:29.896 where there are now I think north of 300 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:32.616 odd dwellings under construction. um 01:04:32.640 --> 01:04:34.136 residents are completely in the dark 01:04:34.160 --> 01:04:35.736 from one day to the next about what the 01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:38.216 builders uh are going to do tomorrow or 01:04:38.240 --> 01:04:41.095 next week, let alone next month. Uh so 01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:42.696 these community engagement policies are 01:04:42.720 --> 01:04:45.335 important, but we need to understand uh 01:04:45.359 --> 01:04:48.359 that that's just us. Um and that the the 01:04:48.720 --> 01:04:50.216 other organizations that will have just 01:04:50.240 --> 01:04:52.936 as critical an impact on our communities 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:54.456 uh don't hold themselves to as high a 01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:55.976 standard as we do. 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.616 Thank you, councellor Hockley. councellor 01:04:58.640 --> 01:05:01.640 Taylor, anything to add? Oh, just um in 01:05:02.240 --> 01:05:05.240 regards to the policy itself, just it's 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:07.575 great that we go out to the community in 01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:10.376 a number of different ways. Obviously, 01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:13.400 we also need to consider unsolicited 01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:16.456 ways that feedback comes back to us. So, 01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:18.856 emails to councellors, you know, I've 01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:20.696 started sending some of mine off. If 01:05:20.720 --> 01:05:23.720 there's what I consider qualitative data 01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:27.720 as opposed to quantitative data around 01:05:28.160 --> 01:05:30.136 certain issues, I think it's valuable to 01:05:30.160 --> 01:05:32.535 take that into account rather than you 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.015 know us saying oh 70% of the people we 01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:38.039 engage with in via this process say this 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.416 um it is and petitions as well obviously 01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:44.216 that come back a lot of people don't 01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:46.616 don't necessarily engage until they 01:05:46.640 --> 01:05:48.376 think they really really need to and 01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:49.815 they're on the back foot with something. 01:05:49.839 --> 01:05:51.575 So I think it's important. It's great to 01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:54.055 have this policy, but we also need to 01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:55.976 consider and take into account 01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:58.376 unsolicited engagement from the 01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:00.055 community. Thank you. 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:01.575 Thank you, councellor Taylor Hans. Any 01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:03.896 further debate? 01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:05.736 Uh 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:08.760 I just like to add that uh uh our 01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.976 community engagement policy only got 25 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:15.000 participants. It didn't really um 01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.119 generate much interest. And um that 01:06:18.240 --> 01:06:20.376 means two things. either community is 01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:23.015 very happy with what we're doing or uh 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.896 community is just checking out and they 01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:28.856 don't believe in in our community one of 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:31.880 these two but um for the recommendation 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:33.815 I have no problem in supporting the 01:06:33.839 --> 01:06:35.416 recommendation councellor Hockley back to 01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.440 you to close I'll put it to a vote all 01:06:38.640 --> 01:06:41.095 those in favor councellor Taylor hence 01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:43.015 councellor ick councellor Leigh councellor 01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:45.575 Hockley councellor mim against none and 01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.599 it is carried 01:06:48.640 --> 01:06:51.640 we are moving to 12.6 counselor gift 01:06:51.680 --> 01:06:54.456 benefit and hospitality policy and there 01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:56.376 were no requests to be heard. Councellors 01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:59.400 I have a mover and a seconder. councellor 01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.736 Leigh and councellor Erlic as a seconder. 01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:04.760 Thank you councellor Leigh. 01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:09.496 Thank you Mr. Mayor. Well, I'd simply 01:07:09.520 --> 01:07:12.136 say we have to be accountable and 01:07:12.160 --> 01:07:14.535 clearly when uh gifts are offered 01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:17.496 offered to you. Um certainly if there of 01:07:17.520 --> 01:07:19.736 any if they're of any significant note, 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:21.015 you should just decline them. In any 01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:23.896 case, well, I would um not that I've 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.920 ever been offered a disc a gift even as 01:07:28.240 --> 01:07:30.376 a former MP of any great substance. I've 01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:32.456 avoided all those sort of things. From a 01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:34.216 practical point of view, it's it's not a 01:07:34.240 --> 01:07:37.240 good look. Um the the closest I've got 01:07:37.520 --> 01:07:40.520 was I think a u some flowers recently at 01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:42.696 an age care facility and I think it 01:07:42.720 --> 01:07:45.416 brings into the point where I don't know 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:48.440 whether they were $15 or $18 or $22 but 01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:50.535 they weren't much more than that but the 01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:52.616 point is sometimes in these things 01:07:52.640 --> 01:07:54.696 you've got to be a bit careful because 01:07:54.720 --> 01:07:57.176 you've you've turned up spoken to them 01:07:57.200 --> 01:07:58.936 uh spoken what was going on as I did 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:00.936 that day. I don't think there was any 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:02.616 bad reports back about me. There's no 01:08:02.640 --> 01:08:05.640 non no I can see that from Joan. So in 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:08.920 my view I accepted it and I um have um 01:08:09.839 --> 01:08:12.535 didn't keep it. I gave it to an old lady 01:08:12.559 --> 01:08:14.856 in our in our street to be if you must 01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:16.695 but I did lie I did tell a fib and said 01:08:16.719 --> 01:08:19.719 I I um I was going to go home and give 01:08:19.759 --> 01:08:21.335 it to my wife and tell her that I paid 01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:23.735 to buy it. But it was just a joke that 01:08:23.759 --> 01:08:26.295 got a few laughs in a in a in a morning 01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:28.856 when you're dealing with a um a fac a 01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:30.936 retirement retirement facility. So, I 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:32.856 think we have to be accountable and we 01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.255 must be very visible about it. And uh 01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:37.175 it's often than not if you've got if you 01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:38.536 don't notice, it's not the big things 01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:40.295 that get you shot, it's the little 01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:42.616 things that get you shot. So, in my 01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.576 view, um I don't have a disagreement a 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:46.936 disagreement with it for obvious 01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:49.735 reasons. I just think um we are we've 01:08:49.759 --> 01:08:51.815 got a job to do and we should do it. 01:08:51.839 --> 01:08:53.416 Make sure that if you accept something, 01:08:53.440 --> 01:08:56.376 it's done in a way that that doesn't 01:08:56.400 --> 01:08:59.255 make us look bad and uh just declare it 01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:01.255 and or give it to somebody else that 01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:03.815 after you've declared it. 01:09:03.839 --> 01:09:05.735 Thank you, councellor Leigh. councellor Erd, 01:09:05.759 --> 01:09:08.536 would you like to say a few words? 01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:10.856 Yes, I would. Thank you. Look, I think 01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:13.496 it's a wonderful idea that governance uh 01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:16.295 takes lead on this. After all, uh gifts 01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:19.319 and the like are the domain of 01:09:19.679 --> 01:09:22.679 governance. So it stands to reason and I 01:09:22.799 --> 01:09:24.376 don't think that we would be the only 01:09:24.400 --> 01:09:27.400 council to take this approach. Um so I 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:31.560 commend um this motion and I think it's 01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:35.655 a wonderful advancement for Bayside City 01:09:35.679 --> 01:09:38.679 Council. Um I'd like to think well we 01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:41.815 are transparent. We're all above board. 01:09:41.839 --> 01:09:43.896 uh but to have the governance team 01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:46.775 managing this who know the rules as 01:09:46.799 --> 01:09:49.799 opposed to elected officials who are not 01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:52.856 all over the rules per se and I know we 01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:55.496 often go to governance for advice. So 01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:56.776 surely they're the ones that should be 01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:58.056 running this. Thank you. 01:09:58.080 --> 01:10:01.080 Thank you councellor. Any further debate? 01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:03.976 No further debate. I'll just uh touch on 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:05.976 a story probably similar to yours. 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.856 Council Leigh I didn't give flowers to a 01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:11.880 lady down the street. I I was gifted a 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:13.976 steering wheel lock 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:17.000 which uh uh by by by another counselor 01:10:18.320 --> 01:10:20.856 from another municipality. Uh by the way 01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:22.215 all this been declared and 01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:23.576 after the car was pinched or 01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:25.175 after the car was pinched and I think 01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:27.576 that's why they made a point to bring me 01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:29.496 a steering wheel lock. This has been 01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:31.256 declared and I believe it's a CEO who 01:10:31.280 --> 01:10:34.280 signed on it. uh but uh it is important 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.800 for us to have um uh a policy like this 01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:40.856 and I'm glad that it seems look it's 01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:43.016 going to be supported by the councellor 01:10:43.040 --> 01:10:46.040 group council le would you like to close 01:10:46.400 --> 01:10:48.456 I put it to vote all those in favor 01:10:48.480 --> 01:10:51.256 council ta h councel ict council Leigh 01:10:51.280 --> 01:10:54.280 councel hley council male against none 01:10:54.320 --> 01:10:56.616 and it is carried 01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:58.456 a 12.7 01:10:58.480 --> 01:11:00.215 appointment of an independent member for 01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:02.296 audit and risk committee and there There 01:11:02.320 --> 01:11:03.976 are no requests to be heard. Do I have a 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.215 mover? councellor Leigh moved and a 01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:08.936 seconder. councellor Taylor Haynes. Thank 01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:11.576 you, councellor Leigh. 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.296 Um, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, we 01:11:14.320 --> 01:11:15.816 obviously have had recently to go 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:17.816 through the process of um, a new member 01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:20.215 of the audit committee because Mr. Jeff 01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:22.296 Harry has stood down and um, we thank 01:11:22.320 --> 01:11:25.320 him for his service and um, I um, we had 01:11:27.280 --> 01:11:27.896 a 01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:29.655 Sorry, councellor Leigh. I was asked by 01:11:29.679 --> 01:11:32.679 governance just to 01:11:36.080 --> 01:11:38.215 Okay. I got correction from the 01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:41.239 governors to say that um uh Mr. Jeff 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.856 Harry uh his term came to an end. 01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:45.336 Yes. 01:11:45.360 --> 01:11:46.456 He wasn't stood down. 01:11:46.480 --> 01:11:48.616 Okay. Sorry. My apologies. I didn't 01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:49.576 clarifying this. 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:51.816 Yeah. My apologies. So his term came to 01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:54.135 an end and we had to appoint a new a new 01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:56.695 member and we had um quite a vigorous 01:11:56.719 --> 01:11:59.719 process both before and and pro and 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.655 during the course of it to actually find 01:12:01.679 --> 01:12:04.679 the right person. Um I must say I um 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:08.376 when we got down to the to the final 01:12:08.400 --> 01:12:11.016 four it was interesting because um 01:12:11.040 --> 01:12:12.536 during the course of all that what 01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:14.936 happens is we have we had for those that 01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:17.960 weren't there we had um uh Katherine 01:12:18.480 --> 01:12:20.776 very clever our senior officer there 01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:22.456 very cleverly put some really good 01:12:22.480 --> 01:12:25.480 questions together which we scored the 01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:28.856 individuals on which was good and in 01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:31.576 between that given I'm my previous 01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:33.736 occupation I had a more devious idea 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:36.760 about how I could um see whether whether 01:12:37.040 --> 01:12:40.040 they were up to it. So I came up with a 01:12:40.080 --> 01:12:43.080 concept of um a council officer had done 01:12:44.320 --> 01:12:46.776 found something very rotten in the 01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:48.215 council and he went to an order 01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:51.016 committee what would happen and I asked 01:12:51.040 --> 01:12:53.096 everybody the same question and made 01:12:53.120 --> 01:12:55.256 sure the other officers the other other 01:12:55.280 --> 01:12:57.576 ones there knew I'd done it and I the 01:12:57.600 --> 01:12:59.896 same the same there was only one real 01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:02.376 answer in the end. Now I have to say up 01:13:02.400 --> 01:13:05.400 until the uh Miss K Casey Nun that we've 01:13:06.400 --> 01:13:09.336 chosen I was supporting one of the 01:13:09.360 --> 01:13:12.360 somebody else in advance of that but um 01:13:12.400 --> 01:13:15.256 where and in fact I have to say she was 01:13:15.280 --> 01:13:16.856 the only one that actually answered the 01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:19.416 question properly and I thought given 01:13:19.440 --> 01:13:21.096 you're on an audit committee and I think 01:13:21.120 --> 01:13:23.416 the good thing about this particular 01:13:23.440 --> 01:13:26.440 choice is she has a very wide background 01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.096 away from just going into local council. 01:13:29.120 --> 01:13:31.496 In fact, she's on some very serious 01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:34.520 organizations across across um across 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:37.560 superanuation funds and I think she will 01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:40.600 add a very great um impact on it. In 01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:44.135 fact, she was also a councellor of the 01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:46.376 city of Hume as probably the youngest 01:13:46.400 --> 01:13:49.400 counselor ever elected um when she was 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:52.920 well obviously she was quite young. So, 01:13:53.040 --> 01:13:54.376 I won't get into the age. I'll leave it 01:13:54.400 --> 01:13:57.400 alone. But my point is I must say I was 01:13:57.440 --> 01:14:00.440 very impressed with her. Um I think she 01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:02.616 candid she was candid about how she 01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:05.640 spoke. I think she will add to the two 01:14:05.679 --> 01:14:07.896 audit audit committee members that we've 01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:10.296 uh we've got still and I think she'll 01:14:10.320 --> 01:14:12.776 bring a different perspective on what 01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:15.496 needs to be with um your managing a 01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:17.496 budget because when you think about it 01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:19.816 our budget's about say $200 million a 01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:21.256 year and when you have an audit 01:14:21.280 --> 01:14:23.496 committee it's a pretty serious business 01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:25.336 to actually go through stuff what both 01:14:25.360 --> 01:14:27.576 the officers do and increasingly now 01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:29.175 when we do buildings there'll be other 01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:31.256 aspects of it as well. So I'm actually 01:14:31.280 --> 01:14:34.135 de I'm you know said I was delighted to 01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:37.159 to um to to actually be it was unanimous 01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:42.135 is what I would say. So I think uh 01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:44.695 she'll really add to it and I I also 01:14:44.719 --> 01:14:46.135 have asked that one one of the things 01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:48.376 that we do that in future we know who 01:14:48.400 --> 01:14:51.336 who on our audit committee because I 01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:53.256 think it's important but I certainly 01:14:53.280 --> 01:14:55.576 welcome her. I look look forward to 01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.135 being involved and I as I said she for 01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:00.215 well I'm 72 I can say she a very possess 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.695 a very a very impressive young lady I 01:15:02.719 --> 01:15:04.536 would say and by that when I'm 72 saying 01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:06.456 that I'm not saying she's a 21y old 01:15:06.480 --> 01:15:08.616 please but I can't give away lady 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:11.016 secrets but my point is she's a very 01:15:11.040 --> 01:15:13.655 impressive lady and I'm really looking 01:15:13.679 --> 01:15:15.976 forward to having on our order committee 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:17.416 thank you very much councellor Leigh 01:15:17.440 --> 01:15:19.816 councel of the lines 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:22.840 just to say I very much uh support the 01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:25.496 letter the to extend the letter of 01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:28.296 appreciation to Mr. Jeff Harry for his 01:15:28.320 --> 01:15:30.536 contribution to the audit and risk 01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:32.936 committee. It's not one term, it's two 01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:35.576 terms that have been delivered a lot of 01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:38.600 dedication and time and and thorough 01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:41.960 knowledge there. Um 01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.776 I've got this thing about two terms. I 01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:47.496 know it's a US thing as well. I I wonder 01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:49.655 whether we'll get Trump out, but God, I 01:15:49.679 --> 01:15:51.576 wish that was the case for our MPs 01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:54.056 vice president here as well. uh two 01:15:54.080 --> 01:15:56.376 terms and I just think changing things 01:15:56.400 --> 01:15:58.936 up and new blood that keeps everyone 01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:01.096 honest. 01:16:01.120 --> 01:16:02.936 Thank you councellor Tahans. Any further 01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:04.776 debate? 01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:07.096 Uh Councellors I just like to add that uh 01:16:07.120 --> 01:16:10.120 we received 35 applications 01:16:10.400 --> 01:16:13.175 uh for this position and that speaks to 01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:15.256 how much Bayside City Council on the 10 01:16:15.280 --> 01:16:18.280 risk committee is valued. uh and I 01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:21.560 understand there was uh a very strong 01:16:21.679 --> 01:16:24.679 applications and it was a an amazing 01:16:24.719 --> 01:16:27.719 effort um by the panel and um I support 01:16:29.440 --> 01:16:31.336 the councellors who are part of this 01:16:31.360 --> 01:16:34.360 panel and uh I pass all my best to um um 01:16:36.400 --> 01:16:38.856 Mr. Jeff Harry. He's done what I hear is 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:41.416 he's done a great job over his two terms 01:16:41.440 --> 01:16:44.440 and I'm looking forward uh to seeing uh 01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:47.880 how we operate with Miss Casey Nun uh 01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:51.175 for the next term. councellor Leigh, would 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:52.936 you like to close? 01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:55.336 Put it to vote. All those in favor 01:16:55.360 --> 01:16:57.175 councellor Taylor Hans, councellor Irlicht, 01:16:57.199 --> 01:16:59.016 councellor Leigh, councellor Hockley, 01:16:59.040 --> 01:17:02.040 councellor Alm against and it is carried. 01:17:04.400 --> 01:17:06.616 We're moving to 12.8 Eight proposed 01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:08.616 naming of laneway between Violet 01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:11.336 Crescent and the Napan Highway Brighton 01:17:11.360 --> 01:17:12.936 East and there were no requests to be 01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:15.816 heard. Do I have a mover? Can Thank you 01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:18.456 councellor Hockley and a seconder. Thank 01:17:18.480 --> 01:17:21.480 you councellor Leigh Council Hockley. 01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:23.896 You have anything to say about the 01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:26.536 naming? I think po I think Posey Lane is 01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:28.695 an excellent name and since uh since the 01:17:28.719 --> 01:17:30.456 majority of the vast majority of 01:17:30.480 --> 01:17:33.480 residents in the area uh agreed then uh 01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:35.976 I think let's uh let's do that. There 01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:37.256 should be more more of this sort of 01:17:37.280 --> 01:17:38.456 thing I must admit. 01:17:38.480 --> 01:17:39.896 Thank you councellor Hockley. councellor 01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:42.135 Leigh, anything to add any further debate 01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:44.776 from the floor? councellor Hockley, I 01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:46.856 assume you're not closing. I'll put it 01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:49.336 to a vote. All those in favor, councellor 01:17:49.360 --> 01:17:51.736 Taylor Haynes, councellor Irlicht, councellor 01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:53.976 Leigh, councellor Hockley, councellor Mimm 01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:57.000 against none and it is carried. 01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:00.135 And now we are moving to 12.9. That's 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.159 proposed sale of land adjoining 59 to 61 01:18:04.080 --> 01:18:07.080 center road and to prim pre primrose 01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:11.256 crescent in Brighton East and there were 01:18:11.280 --> 01:18:12.856 no requests to be heard. Can I have a 01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.096 mover? 01:18:15.120 --> 01:18:17.416 Thank you councel Leigh moved and a 01:18:17.440 --> 01:18:20.440 second. 01:18:20.480 --> 01:18:22.616 Thank you councellor Taylor Haynes. 01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:24.296 councellor Leigh would you like to say a 01:18:24.320 --> 01:18:26.776 few words on 12.9? 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:29.800 um briefly other than to say that um I 01:18:30.320 --> 01:18:32.135 hope we are always being very careful 01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:34.215 when we're selling selling properties 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:36.776 because um you never know sometimes the 01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:39.496 properties of better value than and you 01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:40.936 might use it for other things in the 01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:43.655 future. So u I'm assure I'm sure the 01:18:43.679 --> 01:18:45.736 officers have made the right decision 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.695 and um I obviously support the decision. 01:18:48.719 --> 01:18:50.456 Thank you councel Leigh. councellor Taylor 01:18:50.480 --> 01:18:51.816 Haynes 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:53.896 I'll just say yes trust that the 01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:56.215 officers have done the due diligence. It 01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:58.376 looks like it has been done and it was a 01:18:58.400 --> 01:19:01.400 a fairly fair process between the the 01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:04.920 two different um property owners and 01:19:06.719 --> 01:19:09.175 yeah that's that's it really. It makes 01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:12.199 sense to sell this land off as um 01:19:12.400 --> 01:19:14.056 because it can't be used for open space 01:19:14.080 --> 01:19:17.080 or anything else. So um I'm in favor. 01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:19.736 Thank you councellor Tal Hayes. Any 01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:21.576 further debate? 01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:23.576 I just like to clarify Councellors, we 01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:26.600 are commencing the statutory process uh 01:19:27.040 --> 01:19:28.616 for this item. We're actually not 01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.175 selling the land yet and I am hoping 01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:34.199 that through this process our team would 01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:37.016 look into the infrastructure on or the 01:19:37.040 --> 01:19:39.576 easement underneath that land and 01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:42.600 confirm in future meetings uh how we're 01:19:43.679 --> 01:19:46.679 going to manage that drainage or any uh 01:19:47.120 --> 01:19:49.496 infrastructure underneath the land if 01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:52.056 and once it's sold. Uh councel Leigh, 01:19:52.080 --> 01:19:54.616 would you like to close? 01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:57.336 Put it to a vote. Those in favor 01:19:57.360 --> 01:19:59.576 councellor Taylor Helic, councellor Leigh, 01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:01.736 councellor Oakley, councellor Mimm against 01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:04.760 none and it is carried. 01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:09.096 Thank you. Do I have a comment 01:20:09.120 --> 01:20:10.296 through you chair? I was just going to 01:20:10.320 --> 01:20:12.296 confirm that yes, we we will go back out 01:20:12.320 --> 01:20:14.215 to community consultation and yes, we 01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:16.135 will always have um the right to be able 01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:17.896 to ask people to remove any structures 01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:19.496 over easements. 01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:22.520 Thank you for clarifying. 01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:25.800 And we are moving to item 12.10 S11A 01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:29.016 instrument of appointment to authorized 01:20:29.040 --> 01:20:30.376 officers under the planning and 01:20:30.400 --> 01:20:33.256 environment act 1987. There was no 01:20:33.280 --> 01:20:35.655 request to bird councellors. I need a 01:20:35.679 --> 01:20:37.816 mover. Thank you councellor Hockley. And 01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:39.896 a second 01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:42.215 a second for the procedural motion. 01:20:42.239 --> 01:20:43.816 Councellors. 01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:46.135 Thank you councellor Leigh. councellor 01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:48.616 Hockley. Would you like to say anything? 01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:51.576 Any debate on this item? Nothing from 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:53.016 the floor. I'll put it to a vote. All 01:20:53.040 --> 01:20:55.336 those in favor? councellor Taylor Hens, 01:20:55.360 --> 01:20:57.096 councellor Irlicht, Council Leigh, Council 01:20:57.120 --> 01:21:00.120 Hockley, Council Alm against none. It is 01:21:00.400 --> 01:21:03.336 carried. 01:21:03.360 --> 01:21:05.896 We're moving to 12.11 01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:07.736 cancellation 01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:10.456 of the 12th of August 2025 planning and 01:21:10.480 --> 01:21:12.936 amenity delegated committee meeting. And 01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:14.616 there were no requests to be heard. Do I 01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:17.175 have a mover? Thank you, councellor Leigh, 01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:19.096 and a seconder. 01:21:19.120 --> 01:21:21.256 Thank you, councellor Taylor Haynes. 01:21:21.280 --> 01:21:24.280 Council Leigh, anything to add? 01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:27.640 Asking councellor Taylor Haynes, 01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:29.816 any debate from the floor, maybe from 01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:32.840 the chair of that committee. Go ahead. 01:21:34.400 --> 01:21:35.896 I thought you might say a couple of 01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:36.856 words. Can 01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:38.215 Mr. Mayor, yes. 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.056 I've been put out of a job. That's um 01:21:40.080 --> 01:21:43.080 that's something which uh uh which is a 01:21:43.280 --> 01:21:44.776 notable 01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:47.800 uh first for me. the um the planning and 01:21:48.480 --> 01:21:51.480 amenity delegated committee is um uh 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:53.655 well essentially the its role is being 01:21:53.679 --> 01:21:56.679 folded into uh into ordinary council uh 01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:59.816 as I understand it um partly because uh 01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:02.296 it's just easier that way but mostly 01:22:02.320 --> 01:22:05.320 because the amount of business that is 01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:07.496 uh required to be transacted through 01:22:07.520 --> 01:22:09.655 that committee um has declined and it's 01:22:09.679 --> 01:22:12.215 not necessarily if I'm correct uh the 01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:13.655 result of dwindling numbers of 01:22:13.679 --> 01:22:16.135 applications but simply because there uh 01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:18.456 so many more applications uh deemed to 01:22:18.480 --> 01:22:20.856 comply, so many more applications which 01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:23.880 um simply don't require council um a 01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:27.016 council intervention or review which 01:22:27.040 --> 01:22:29.896 places in my view and I do want to put 01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:32.776 on record um this this notion that or 01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:35.016 this thought that it does place a great 01:22:35.040 --> 01:22:37.655 deal more importance on um the role of 01:22:37.679 --> 01:22:39.655 people like building surveyors to ensure 01:22:39.679 --> 01:22:41.655 that comp that that that builders and 01:22:41.679 --> 01:22:43.736 developers actually comply with what's 01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:46.760 agreed uh and that council one way or 01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:49.976 another uh continues to have a role in 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:51.496 the process of ensuring that our 01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:53.496 streetscapes and the livability of our 01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:55.336 suburbs are preserved. I don't think 01:22:55.360 --> 01:22:57.175 it's a terrible um development that 01:22:57.199 --> 01:22:58.615 there isn't enough business for planning 01:22:58.639 --> 01:23:00.856 and amenity um to continue. But 01:23:00.880 --> 01:23:02.615 nevertheless, I think our role as 01:23:02.639 --> 01:23:04.936 Councellors uh needs to continue to 01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:07.496 ensure that decent trees don't get 01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:09.736 chopped down, that good uh that good 01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:11.336 quality dwellings that are that are 01:23:11.360 --> 01:23:14.360 suitable uh to both our streetscapes, 01:23:14.400 --> 01:23:16.135 the livability of our suburbs, and the 01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:19.159 amenity um that we can that we enjoy in 01:23:19.440 --> 01:23:21.976 this in this area of preserved. uh and 01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:23.896 look forward to continuing with council 01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:26.920 colleagues in this forum to uh review 01:23:27.120 --> 01:23:29.096 planning applications such as they will 01:23:29.120 --> 01:23:30.776 be in the in the months and years to 01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:31.576 come. 01:23:31.600 --> 01:23:34.456 Thank you councellor Hockley. Well said. 01:23:34.480 --> 01:23:36.536 Um, council, there's nothing to add from 01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:38.936 me and I'll put it to vote. All those in 01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:41.256 favor, councellor Taylor, Hans, councellor 01:23:41.280 --> 01:23:43.496 Irlicht, councel Leigh, councellor Oakley, 01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:46.520 consm against none. These carried moving 01:23:47.440 --> 01:23:50.440 to 12.12 contract co 01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:54.520 25/13 reconstruction of Banksia Reserve 01:23:55.120 --> 01:23:57.896 Sports Grounds in Bowie. And I have a 01:23:57.920 --> 01:23:59.736 mover. Thank you, councellor Taylor 01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:01.576 Haynes. And a seconder. Thank you, 01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.376 councellor Leigh. councellor Tains, would 01:24:04.400 --> 01:24:05.576 you like to say a few words? 01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:07.736 So, happy to move this as it's in my 01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:10.135 ward. Um, 01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:13.016 my we've been family members of the B 01:24:13.040 --> 01:24:15.096 Morris football club for the past 01:24:15.120 --> 01:24:18.120 decade. Uh, but I must disclose or or 01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:20.856 say obviously that the decision to 01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:23.880 reconstruct this oval was uh previous 01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:26.536 council's decision and not ours. So, I 01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:28.856 wasn't involved in that. What we are 01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:31.880 doing here tonight is awarding um the 01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.000 contract. The I can attest to the fact 01:24:35.040 --> 01:24:38.040 that that overall is highly utilized not 01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:40.376 just by footballers all throughout the 01:24:40.400 --> 01:24:43.400 day on a on a Saturday and a Sunday 01:24:43.440 --> 01:24:45.816 obviously training during the week and 01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:48.215 then the cricket club uh during the 01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:51.239 summer months as well as dogs all day 01:24:51.440 --> 01:24:54.056 long. I was passed there this morning. 01:24:54.080 --> 01:24:56.296 There were five big dogs, not in the new 01:24:56.320 --> 01:24:58.456 dog park, but running around the oval 01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:00.376 because they can spread out and run at 01:25:00.400 --> 01:25:02.776 great speed. Big breeds of dogs were 01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:05.336 doing that. So, um it's a highly 01:25:05.360 --> 01:25:08.360 utilized, fantastic, you know, area. 01:25:08.719 --> 01:25:11.416 It's a big part of that local community. 01:25:11.440 --> 01:25:14.440 It's um it's exceeded its life span, the 01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:18.840 ground itself. Um, so it's great that we 01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:22.520 we've found someone to deliver this 01:25:22.639 --> 01:25:25.639 project and within budget after we've 01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:27.976 gone back and asked for the best price. 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:30.536 Well done officers. That's brilliant. 01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.376 Um, and just one question with the 01:25:32.400 --> 01:25:35.400 watering with the irrigation, do we have 01:25:35.440 --> 01:25:38.440 a backup plan in 2027 if it isn't um sat 01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:43.239 the Dingly recycled water scheme? 01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:44.936 And can we get an answer 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:46.856 through you chair? will use the existing 01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.496 irrigation that's there. Okay, simple. 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:49.896 Thank you. 01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:51.336 Thank you. councellor Leigh, would you like 01:25:51.360 --> 01:25:53.816 to say a few words? 01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:55.896 Um, prior to moving to Black Rock, we 01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:58.695 lived in Boris. And I can say that um 01:25:58.719 --> 01:26:00.936 over the 28 years that we lived in I 01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:02.615 think roughly 28 years that we lived in 01:26:02.639 --> 01:26:05.639 Boris. Uh my boys from three sons from 8 01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:08.856 till in their early 20s all played 01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:11.880 football there. They um they started as 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:15.560 the under eights. They wound up um two 01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:18.920 of them particularly they wound up as um 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:21.576 coaches, captains 01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.600 um even the the middle one going off and 01:26:25.280 --> 01:26:27.416 being paid as a 21-year-old as one of 01:26:27.440 --> 01:26:29.655 the other of one of the other clubs 01:26:29.679 --> 01:26:31.256 thought he was such a good coach they 01:26:31.280 --> 01:26:32.695 actually paid him to actually go and 01:26:32.719 --> 01:26:34.695 work for it. It wasn't directly always 01:26:34.719 --> 01:26:37.719 against Bowie, but um and I have to say 01:26:39.199 --> 01:26:41.336 one of the one of the great things about 01:26:41.360 --> 01:26:43.496 some of our places where we like these 01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:45.976 oles is the more we get our children 01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:47.816 involved in these types of activities, 01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:49.655 the less there are at the younger ages, 01:26:49.679 --> 01:26:51.736 the less there are of the other issues 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:53.496 that happen to them. And I all I can say 01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:56.520 is um going there I remember my favorite 01:26:57.040 --> 01:26:59.576 moment of it was the old when they had 01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:01.655 the old building originally and the car 01:27:01.679 --> 01:27:03.816 part when the new build another not the 01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:06.840 one now but the one before that what the 01:27:07.120 --> 01:27:10.120 the week weekend before they opened the 01:27:10.239 --> 01:27:11.976 particular building that's now I think 01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:15.000 gone um an officer from council came 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:18.760 down to um the uh oval the car park 01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:23.000 which was all um pothole all over the 01:27:23.120 --> 01:27:26.120 place and he was putting um filling in 01:27:27.120 --> 01:27:29.816 one set of potholes and I said to him, 01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:31.096 "Why are you doing that?" He said, "Oh, 01:27:31.120 --> 01:27:34.056 the mayor will be here next week when um 01:27:34.080 --> 01:27:35.576 and that's where his car's going to 01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:37.416 park." I said, "Oh, thanks for that." 01:27:37.440 --> 01:27:40.376 So, the next week I turned up when um 01:27:40.400 --> 01:27:43.256 the former la one of our last mayors was 01:27:43.280 --> 01:27:46.215 um councellor Delp Porto. He rocked up 01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:48.056 and I rocked up with everybody and I 01:27:48.080 --> 01:27:49.736 said, "Congratulations. I just want you 01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:52.536 to know you see this swarm of potholes 01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:55.336 all over there full of water. Yeah. I 01:27:55.360 --> 01:27:57.496 said, "Well, your officer was here last 01:27:57.520 --> 01:27:59.496 last week to fill in the one so you 01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:01.256 wouldn't get your feet wet." And then 01:28:01.280 --> 01:28:04.280 and it became a big secret or an unknown 01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:07.175 secret to Murray Murray um Thompson is 01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:09.256 that it was Jeff Leigh that got the car 01:28:09.280 --> 01:28:12.280 park a [ __ ] because um he embarrassed 01:28:12.400 --> 01:28:14.056 the mayor that much they ran off to 01:28:14.080 --> 01:28:15.576 actually get get it all done. there now 01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:17.976 whether it's true or not but I must say 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:21.000 it when it for my boys that oval is one 01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.456 of the great ovals of Boris and or at 01:28:24.480 --> 01:28:27.336 Bayside to be perfectly honest um well 01:28:27.360 --> 01:28:29.816 utilized by everybody I think the only 01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:31.496 mistake made in that place when they did 01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:34.520 the pavilion they mucked up the how they 01:28:35.440 --> 01:28:37.416 built it and the result of that they put 01:28:37.440 --> 01:28:39.016 a restaurant in there it's still bloody 01:28:39.040 --> 01:28:41.736 it's still got cobwebs in it I think 01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.296 from what I could imagine and maybe they 01:28:44.320 --> 01:28:46.615 can look reusing it somehow better 01:28:46.639 --> 01:28:48.615 because it's not worked as a restaurant. 01:28:48.639 --> 01:28:51.096 It was just a another one of the mad 01:28:51.120 --> 01:28:53.175 schemes of former co counselor Clark 01:28:53.199 --> 01:28:56.199 Martin and others. So my view um it's a 01:28:56.480 --> 01:28:58.215 great outcome and it's welld deserved 01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:00.135 that it's been done and I hope it all 01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:01.175 goes well. 01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:02.695 Thank you councellor Leigh. Any further 01:29:02.719 --> 01:29:05.175 debate? 01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:08.199 Uh Councellors I do understand it is one 01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:11.880 of the highly utilized um uh reserves 01:29:12.400 --> 01:29:14.536 and sports grounds in Bayside. this one 01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:17.560 and I'm glad to hear bit of history um 01:29:18.480 --> 01:29:20.456 about it and councellor Leigh uh 01:29:20.480 --> 01:29:22.856 engagements through his kids. Uh I'd 01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:24.456 like to know that the last time we've 01:29:24.480 --> 01:29:27.480 done some partial work on it was in 2004 01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:30.760 so 20 or so years on it is about time to 01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:33.896 invest in that ground. My only concern 01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:36.920 is once the works are completed is how 01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:39.256 we're going to manage the dogs of leash 01:29:39.280 --> 01:29:41.736 and I am really hoping that we'll have 01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:44.056 more visibility for our local laws and 01:29:44.080 --> 01:29:47.080 an educational program and some signage 01:29:47.360 --> 01:29:50.360 to go with the new surface. Uh now I 01:29:50.480 --> 01:29:52.056 noticed that we're also putting some 01:29:52.080 --> 01:29:54.215 infrastructure designed in to 01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:56.296 accommodate the future supply of class A 01:29:56.320 --> 01:29:59.320 recycled water. And uh it looks like uh 01:29:59.679 --> 01:30:02.679 we got it is uh critical in timing to 01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:05.416 get the center and a turf laid before 01:30:05.440 --> 01:30:07.976 the Christmas period. So um we 01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:10.695 understand it is on budget and I am 01:30:10.719 --> 01:30:13.719 hoping that we deliver it on time. Uh 01:30:14.080 --> 01:30:15.576 councellor Taylor would you like to 01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:17.336 close? 01:30:17.360 --> 01:30:18.376 No that's fine. Thank you. 01:30:18.400 --> 01:30:20.056 Put it to vote. Those in favor, 01:30:20.080 --> 01:30:21.816 councellor Taylor Hans, councellor Irlicht, 01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:23.576 councellor Leigh, councellor Harkley, 01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:25.416 councellor El Mouallen against none and it is 01:30:25.440 --> 01:30:27.576 carried. 01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:29.976 Moving to 12.13 01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:33.000 contract co-25/18 01:30:33.360 --> 01:30:35.496 construction of Hampton for accessible 01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:38.520 ramp car park shared user pass and 01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:40.856 playground. councellors, I'm in your 01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:43.880 hands. I need the mover and a seconder. 01:30:44.320 --> 01:30:47.320 Thank you councellor Taylor Haynes and 01:30:47.360 --> 01:30:49.496 and councellor Leigh. Thank you, Council 01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:51.016 Tines. 01:30:51.040 --> 01:30:52.456 I'd like to say a few words. 01:30:52.480 --> 01:30:55.016 So, once again, this precedes our 01:30:55.040 --> 01:30:57.736 council. Um, and what we're doing here 01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:00.760 is awarding not one but two or splitting 01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:03.655 the project up, but it the contracts 01:31:03.679 --> 01:31:06.679 been awarded to the same contractor. Uh, 01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:09.016 once again, 01:31:09.040 --> 01:31:12.040 um, director and officers have done very 01:31:12.080 --> 01:31:14.135 well in negotiating the price and 01:31:14.159 --> 01:31:16.296 getting that down. It's it's below 01:31:16.320 --> 01:31:18.776 budget obviously. uh putting the two 01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:20.856 projects together and having the um the 01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:23.736 same contract have worked out very well. 01:31:23.760 --> 01:31:25.416 Uh the works are going to run 01:31:25.440 --> 01:31:26.936 concurrently 01:31:26.960 --> 01:31:29.960 um is my understanding. Uh 01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:33.336 so I've been involved in South Life 01:31:33.360 --> 01:31:35.736 Saving for a while. Our club was Half 01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:37.976 Moon Bay, but we often competed against 01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:40.695 Hampton Life Saving Club and they are 01:31:40.719 --> 01:31:42.856 one of very few clubs that offer that 01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:44.615 all abilities. 01:31:44.639 --> 01:31:47.639 um starfish they call it from age 5 to 01:31:48.320 --> 01:31:51.320 18. And it just um it's it's it doesn't 01:31:52.880 --> 01:31:54.536 just mean kids in wheelchairs like my 01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:56.376 son was for a while when swimming was 01:31:56.400 --> 01:31:59.400 his only thing but it's kids with autism 01:31:59.920 --> 01:32:02.615 you know on the spectrum ADHD that just 01:32:02.639 --> 01:32:05.416 need more one-on-one. I was I had my 01:32:05.440 --> 01:32:07.736 bronze medallion was often in the water 01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:10.615 with kids and just know how important 01:32:10.639 --> 01:32:13.639 this is to you know not just for social 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:15.816 skills too as well as learning to swim 01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:18.776 and doing something different. So I I 01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:21.336 think this is a great initiative um it's 01:32:21.360 --> 01:32:24.360 good it's coming to fruition and um and 01:32:24.400 --> 01:32:26.456 the little park down there my kids used 01:32:26.480 --> 01:32:29.175 to play at that playground loads um back 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:31.736 in the day. So yeah, I looking forward 01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:34.760 to this uh being completed. 01:32:34.960 --> 01:32:36.456 Thank you. councellor Taylor Haynes, 01:32:36.480 --> 01:32:38.135 councellor Leigh, 01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:40.135 anything to add councellors, anything to 01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:43.096 add on this? I conquer and agree with 01:32:43.120 --> 01:32:45.736 you. Uh councellor Taylor Haynes, the 01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:47.496 Hampton Life Saving Club got some 01:32:47.520 --> 01:32:50.456 amazing program for the swimming for 01:32:50.480 --> 01:32:52.056 people with disabilities and I believe 01:32:52.080 --> 01:32:54.296 it is called the Starfish. I've been 01:32:54.320 --> 01:32:56.135 there a couple times over the last few 01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:58.376 years and this has been going on for a 01:32:58.400 --> 01:33:01.400 while. uh to provide the accessibility 01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:05.159 uh for all abilities really. So I'm I'm 01:33:05.280 --> 01:33:07.816 pleased to see it's happening now and um 01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:10.840 I'm also uh glad to see the upgrades for 01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:13.416 the playground. And what's really 01:33:13.440 --> 01:33:15.175 important here is we're also doing some 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:18.199 work on the shared the pass which is 01:33:18.320 --> 01:33:20.135 important to attend to these issues 01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:22.376 where you allow the cyclists and 01:33:22.400 --> 01:33:25.336 pedestrians to use that area safely. Uh 01:33:25.360 --> 01:33:26.936 it's a great project. I'm looking 01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:29.256 forward to uh seeing us commencing. I 01:33:29.280 --> 01:33:31.816 see the planning permits now up. There 01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:33.736 is a planning notice on site or a couple 01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:35.976 of them. So, I'm looking forward to uh 01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:38.615 seeing it happening very soon. councellor 01:33:38.639 --> 01:33:41.175 Tahanss, would you like to close? I'll 01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:43.016 put it to vote. All those in favor, 01:33:43.040 --> 01:33:44.936 councellor Talah, councellor Irlicht, 01:33:44.960 --> 01:33:46.776 councellor Leigh, councellor Hockley, 01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:48.856 councellor Mim 01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:51.880 against none and it is carried. 01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:55.896 We are moving to 12.14 01:33:55.920 --> 01:33:58.920 contract C/25/22 01:33:59.440 --> 01:34:02.440 annual road resurfacing program 2025 to 01:34:03.040 --> 01:34:05.816 2027 and request to be heard not 01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:08.456 permitted to this item and can please 01:34:08.480 --> 01:34:10.135 note the amendment to the offic's 01:34:10.159 --> 01:34:13.159 recommendation shown on the screen and 01:34:13.679 --> 01:34:16.679 here it is under point three 01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:19.655 so that is uh officer's recommendation 01:34:19.679 --> 01:34:21.816 and now I'm in your hands councellors I 01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:24.135 need the mover and a seconder. Thank 01:34:24.159 --> 01:34:27.159 you, councellor Hockley. And I need a 01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:29.736 seconder. 01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:31.655 Thank you, councellor Taylor Haynes. 01:34:31.679 --> 01:34:33.576 councellor Hockley, would you like to say 01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:36.600 a few words? Just that um these are good 01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:40.760 contracts and I think um probably a good 01:34:41.040 --> 01:34:43.736 argument for why it was worth the city 01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:46.056 of Bayside returning to the Municipal 01:34:46.080 --> 01:34:47.896 Association of Victoria after a short 01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:50.856 absence. uh given that it gave us access 01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:52.695 this gives us access to the statewide 01:34:52.719 --> 01:34:55.655 roads resurfacing 01:34:55.679 --> 01:34:58.679 uh panel. Um the um the flexibility that 01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.256 this uh this contract 01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:06.280 uh provides to us means that um the main 01:35:07.120 --> 01:35:08.856 decisions that we have to make as a 01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:11.880 council are where to do the work. not uh 01:35:13.360 --> 01:35:15.336 not how to engage or to go through 01:35:15.360 --> 01:35:18.360 detailed or complex or um long and 01:35:19.280 --> 01:35:21.576 involved procurement processes each time 01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:23.416 which I think is a good thing. Uh but 01:35:23.440 --> 01:35:25.336 also then to know that we're getting 01:35:25.360 --> 01:35:27.096 reasonable value. My only question, and 01:35:27.120 --> 01:35:28.936 I think this is an unresolved question 01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:31.096 as of earlier this evening, is it's 01:35:31.120 --> 01:35:34.056 unclear how much of the funding that's 01:35:34.080 --> 01:35:37.080 been allocated to this project, the road 01:35:37.440 --> 01:35:40.440 resurfacing project, which will be um 01:35:40.480 --> 01:35:43.480 delivered by this panel is actually uh 01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:45.496 city of Bayside money exclusively or 01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:47.496 whether we've actually been able to snag 01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:49.256 any Commonwealth money to support it. 01:35:49.280 --> 01:35:50.856 So, I'll leave that I'll leave that 01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:52.296 question hanging and if the officers can 01:35:52.320 --> 01:35:54.296 answer it, by all means, great. Uh 01:35:54.320 --> 01:35:56.695 otherwise it remains the only asterisk 01:35:56.719 --> 01:35:59.256 that I put against 01:35:59.280 --> 01:36:01.576 uh this particular project because it'd 01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:03.736 be great to get a little bit more of a 01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:06.760 share of Commonwealth uh or state um 01:36:07.920 --> 01:36:10.920 money for these causes, but uh you do 01:36:11.440 --> 01:36:12.856 have to be nice to them occasionally. 01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:13.816 Jeff, 01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:15.256 thank you councellor Hockley. And we 01:36:15.280 --> 01:36:18.056 might have an answer for you. Um yes, 01:36:18.080 --> 01:36:20.536 you chair. It's $482,000 is 01:36:20.560 --> 01:36:21.736 of the 1.7. 01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:23.896 That's correct. Thank you. 01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:26.296 Thank you. And uh councellor Taylor 01:36:26.320 --> 01:36:27.496 Hanss, would you like to add? 01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:30.296 Oh, just to say I understand that in the 01:36:30.320 --> 01:36:33.320 community uh the customer survey that 01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:36.296 came back that potholes was number one 01:36:36.320 --> 01:36:39.016 issue. Is that correct? Am I right? And 01:36:39.040 --> 01:36:42.040 then uh community safety next. So look, 01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:44.936 it's it's great that we're spending 7.2 01:36:44.960 --> 01:36:47.736 million. I think any further advocacy 01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:50.760 around additional funds um wouldn't go a 01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:53.976 miss because potholes appear all the 01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.776 time and um it it's good to get on top 01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:59.496 of this as soon as possible. Yep. Thank 01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:00.536 you. 01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:02.135 Thank you. councellor Taylor Hans any 01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:04.856 further debate from the floor? 01:37:04.880 --> 01:37:06.776 Uh councellor Hockley. Would you like to 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:08.936 close to a vote? All those in favor? 01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:11.175 councellor Taylor Hens councellor Irlicht 01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:13.336 Councel Leigh. councellor Hockley councellor 01:37:13.360 --> 01:37:16.360 El Mouallen against none. It is carried. 01:37:16.480 --> 01:37:19.480 Councellors, we are moving to a 12.5 01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:22.056 council action awaiting report and there 01:37:22.080 --> 01:37:24.135 was no request to be heard. Councellors, 01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:27.159 I have a mover on 12.15 councellor Leigh 01:37:27.440 --> 01:37:30.135 and a second councellor Taylor Haynes. 01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:31.655 Would you like to say anything? Council 01:37:31.679 --> 01:37:33.816 Leigh any debate? I'll put it to vote. 01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:36.840 Those in favor councellor Taylor Haynes, 01:37:37.119 --> 01:37:38.856 councellor Early, Council Leigh, councellor 01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:41.175 Hley, councellor Malim against none and 01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:43.576 it is carried. 01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:46.056 And that puts us to section 13 reports 01:37:46.080 --> 01:37:49.016 by delegates and the association of 01:37:49.040 --> 01:37:51.095 Bayside municipalities manager open 01:37:51.119 --> 01:37:54.119 space and recreation is Jill. 01:37:54.480 --> 01:37:55.896 Director Coulson do you have anything to 01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:56.456 report? 01:37:56.480 --> 01:37:58.695 Uh through you chair there was no need. 01:37:58.719 --> 01:38:01.336 No and Metropolitan Transport Forum 01:38:01.360 --> 01:38:02.536 councellor Leigh. 01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:03.655 Yes. 01:38:03.679 --> 01:38:06.679 Thank you. Um on the 2nd of July um the 01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:11.016 the Metro Metropolitan Transport Forum 01:38:11.040 --> 01:38:13.175 had its sixth meeting for the year. uh 01:38:13.199 --> 01:38:16.199 one the focus of the MT MTF 01:38:16.719 --> 01:38:18.695 uh meeting was to discuss the strategic 01:38:18.719 --> 01:38:21.256 public transport advocacy for the group 01:38:21.280 --> 01:38:24.056 and uh to workshop the priorities for 01:38:24.080 --> 01:38:25.576 2526 01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:28.456 advocacy for each member. Two, the key 01:38:28.480 --> 01:38:31.095 theme for the strategic adversary a was 01:38:31.119 --> 01:38:34.119 act activity buses and choice uh 01:38:34.639 --> 01:38:36.856 activity focused on being on making 01:38:36.880 --> 01:38:39.416 public transport accessible for all and 01:38:39.440 --> 01:38:42.440 sustainable transport options. Buses f 01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:44.615 uh focuses on making the bus services 01:38:44.639 --> 01:38:47.639 more efficient. Uh direct and frequent 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:49.816 uh choice targets the notion that you 01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:51.655 shouldn't uh you shouldn't need a car to 01:38:51.679 --> 01:38:53.576 live in Melbourne. 01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:56.600 Thank you councellor Leigh. uh municipal 01:38:56.880 --> 01:38:58.936 association of Victoria. I believe Mr. 01:38:58.960 --> 01:39:01.336 Crips attending attended the meeting on 01:39:01.360 --> 01:39:03.175 the 16th of July and he might have a 01:39:03.199 --> 01:39:05.416 report for us. 01:39:05.440 --> 01:39:07.256 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. On the 16th of 01:39:07.280 --> 01:39:09.416 July, I attended the MAV in a Metro 01:39:09.440 --> 01:39:12.296 Southeast region uh meeting. Um this 01:39:12.320 --> 01:39:14.215 provided an opportunity for updates from 01:39:14.239 --> 01:39:16.215 the MAV around legislative changes 01:39:16.239 --> 01:39:18.695 affecting local government. Um there was 01:39:18.719 --> 01:39:21.336 also updates on state council motions 01:39:21.360 --> 01:39:23.976 that were relevant to our uh region and 01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.135 there was an opportunity for discussions 01:39:26.159 --> 01:39:28.695 u on behalf of those in attendance 01:39:28.719 --> 01:39:30.695 around current issues there may be may 01:39:30.719 --> 01:39:32.615 not be um dealing with. There were a 01:39:32.639 --> 01:39:34.856 number of um items that were put 01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:36.215 forward, but there was commonality 01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:38.776 around community safety um among 01:39:38.800 --> 01:39:41.736 planning controls and changes along with 01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:43.816 uh a number of other um issues 01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:46.695 associated with trees um throughout the 01:39:46.719 --> 01:39:49.719 throughout the area. Um lastly, they uh 01:39:50.560 --> 01:39:52.615 the the meeting also talked about 01:39:52.639 --> 01:39:53.736 upcoming events and training 01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:56.215 opportunities for councils. 01:39:56.239 --> 01:39:58.776 Thank you, Mr. CEO. And in a South 01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:00.296 Metropolitan Mayor's forum, I'm 01:40:00.320 --> 01:40:02.615 reporting there was no formal meeting 01:40:02.639 --> 01:40:04.456 for this forum. That puts us to 01:40:04.480 --> 01:40:07.175 Southeast Council Climate uh Change 01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:08.856 Alliance. And I believe Miss Coulson, do 01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:10.296 you have anything to report on this? 01:40:10.320 --> 01:40:13.175 Uh yes, thank you, Chair. Um second met 01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:15.336 on the 19th of June and councellor 01:40:15.360 --> 01:40:17.016 Macintosh, who's an apology tonight, 01:40:17.040 --> 01:40:19.416 attended that meeting. Um the key items 01:40:19.440 --> 01:40:20.856 at the meeting were the adoption of the 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:22.376 terms of reference for the mineral 01:40:22.400 --> 01:40:25.400 forum, uh presentations uh of the sector 01:40:25.760 --> 01:40:28.296 impact report and a view an overview of 01:40:28.320 --> 01:40:31.320 strategic projects uh particularly the 01:40:31.360 --> 01:40:33.336 financing flood resilient infrastructure 01:40:33.360 --> 01:40:35.416 project and also the green leases 01:40:35.440 --> 01:40:36.376 project. 01:40:36.400 --> 01:40:38.296 Thank you Miss Coulson. Councellors I 01:40:38.320 --> 01:40:41.095 need the mover for this item. Thank you 01:40:41.119 --> 01:40:43.336 councellor Taylor Hans and seconded by 01:40:43.360 --> 01:40:45.736 councellor Hockley. Put it to vote. All 01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:48.056 those in favor, councellor Taylor Haynes, 01:40:48.080 --> 01:40:49.336 councellor Elliot, councellor Leigh, 01:40:49.360 --> 01:40:51.256 councellor Hartley, councellor Malim 01:40:51.280 --> 01:40:54.280 against none and it is carried. Thank 01:40:54.320 --> 01:40:55.816 you to those following the council 01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:57.576 meeting tonight. I declare the meeting 01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:00.600 closed at 8:14 p.m. Officers, please 01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:03.800 switch off the webcasting.